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This blog is addressed to atheists. Don’t take me the wrong way because I respect your right to sincerely not believe. However I don’t want to be used as part of your case against God. What I’m referring to is the fact that I’ve seen atheists using the example of children with cancer to argue against God. I’ve recently been diagnosed with lymphoma which is a form of cancer. I’m a child with cancer and I’m also a Christian. I’m not saying that there’s no children with cancer who might agree with you but not all of us do so you need to respect that fact and stop presenting us as part of your argument. Thank you for reading this.
A word to atheists
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ana
this is a fair point and it's actually a more sophisticated philosophical objection than most atheists give credit for tbh. using someone else's suffering as evidence for your argument without their consent is a form of appropriation. the child with cancer who still believes isn't a paradox to be explained away they're a data point that complicates the narrative, and dismissing that is intellectually lazy
Reζreset Fallen
It's not really an argument against God, it's an argument against a benevolent God. For what it's worth though, I think just about everything in our plane of existence is an argument against a benevolent God running or steering things, in this universe. :/
I’m familiar with that point of view and at first sight it seems reasonable. I actually did a blog 8 months ago called What I believe about why God allows bad things to happen. Briefly what I explained in it was that God deliberately created an imperfect universe because otherwise there would be no possibility of personal growth and nothing to aspire to. Also that the bad things provide the contrast that enables us to appreciate the better things.
Illness is part of the imperfection that enables us to appreciate health and it can affect anyone of any age. While I can see why children with cancer may seem to suggest that either there’s no God, or at least not a benevolent God, that perspective is rooted in the temporal and not the eternal perspective. As I see it what I am going through now, and however bad it gets, it’s only a flicker in eternity. After this life I believe that eternity in heaven awaits me and that any suffering I experience in this life will not continue and will be more than made up for which is actually why my diagnosis hasn’t affected my faith in God.
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The problem with that theory is that you can't actually learn anything from having spiritual amnesia and being mind wiped. That is, we enter incarnated life with no clear goal, plan, or purpose. It's all vague, and many never 'figure it out'. Without memory of our previous existence we're literally building from nothing, and making mistakes when we wouldn't otherwise make them had we had that knowledge.
Why do I need to get into a car crash to know getting in a car crash is bad? Why do I need to be sick to over and over to know that being sick is bad? As a spirit, I could just observe all this from afar, and even experience it indirectly.
The God of this universe didn't just created an imperfect universe to learn in, he created a hell for us to continually suffer. Why would he do that? I think the answer is obvious, but it's not answer most Christians accept.
If you pray to God, will he heal you? All Christians know that he may or may not. I think a truly benevolent God would always heal you. But healing is not a power exclusive to God, so you don't even have to go that route.
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I certainly agree with you about the absurdity of starting each incarnation with your memory wiped. That’s actually one of the reasons I don’t believe in reincarnation.
While you’ve made some good points I still believe that God deliberately created an imperfect universe for the reasons I’ve already said. I’m going to focus on just one of your points. The argument that God would heal everyone. Right now I would very much like that to be the case for obvious reasons. I don’t know why he heals some people but I believe that if he healed everyone he would be defeating the reasons he had for making an imperfect universe because it would sort of be only pretend imperfect then. Also like I said the suffering we experience in this life lasts only as long as this life and doesn’t continue in the afterlife.
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I think you misunderstood the mechanism of reincarnation; it's not to make your soul better; It's more of a failure to escape the physical world. I suppose you may not have reincarnated before, but this is very rare. The reason we incarnate with amnesia is varied, but if your God wanted us to learn, he surely wouldn't have designed our training ground in this way. As I've probably mentioned before - I do not believe the material world was created by a divine God. For one thing, it's completely beneath him in purpose and scope. This is merely a side project of an out-of-control celestial error, that will eventually be corrected and destroyed, if hasn't already (there may be some severe time dilation in our reality).
Your beliefs will always control and dictate your reality. I consider mainstream metaphysics of Christianity flawed and influenced by evil - which is precisely why I don't follow it. The version you follow today is based on what the Council of Rome wanted to exist, and probably the Archons as well, since all mainstream religions usually serve the Demiurge in someway.
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Anyway, I don't expect you'll budge from your position, where as mine was formed over many years of study, wanting to know the truth. I still have much to learn... or should I say... remember.
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Eden
personally agnostic here:
PREACH !!! SPIT YOUR SHIT INDEED !!!
also oh my god I’m so sorry T^T I hope you beat it!!!