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Why I think unconditional love doesn't exist.

Unconditional love means you'll love someone no matter what, but in reality do you really believe that? It's always give and take, even if it's not really a balanced deal, it's still a give and take deal. It's always "I love them because," there's always a because. I think as humans nothing about us is pure, and so pure love amongst us doesn't exist.

 Why do you love your partner? Because they make me happy. Why do you love your siblings? Because they always have my back. Why do you love your friends? Because they make me laugh. Why do you love your parents? Because they're doing their best for me.

There's always a reason, and you can't love someone without that person having some sort of benefit to. But does pure love even exist? I don't think so, not in humans, anyway.

It's not really a bad thing, like- I don't mean it's bad that you love them because they make you happy, that's just how we are. I was just thinking about how everything in our life is a lot like a business deal.


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BULLET

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I agree that us mere mortals are incapable of fostering unconditional love, unless we put ourselves in the deliberate position to love without reason. Great post!


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Tysm I appreciate the comment :3

by samakmak_☆; ; Report

OFC!:D

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In my eyes, the truest form of love is acceptance. In the same way that Mother Nature just lets you be you, lets you exist and doesn’t seek anything back.

This “love” you’re talking abt is a form of discrimination, judging and measuring if you like that person or not based on their value. Most people in our society call that “love” but I don’t see it as one.

In the truest form of love, there is no reason to love. Why do I like the ocean? I don’t have a reason. I just do.

I CAN give reasons as to why I like it. But that is a aftermath of already loving the ocean.


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But i don't think you can love something without there being a reason. You can't just "love" the same way you can't just be "sad" and cant just be "happy." Everything has a reason, whether you're aware of it or not, that leads to your opinion or your feelings. You could say that you never liked the ocean for no reason, but that's not true, there is always a reason, you might just be unaware of it.

You can't JUST love the ocean for no reason, that's not how your brain works, and I think comparing us to mother nature isn't fair because mother nature doesn't think, therfore it cannot love and cannot have opinions about us.

The ocean cannot physically give you gifts or hugs or comfort you when your sad, it can however make you feel a certain way, if the ocean makes you calm and happy, you love it for THAT reason, if it gives you anxiety you hate it for THAT reason.

I feel like especially with the human mind there's always a bigger explanation to how you feel, even if it's nothing significant, because it's simply too complicated for that.

Consciousness is simply too complicated for you to JUST love. Maybe in other creatures God has created they can feel JUST feelings for no reason behind it, but I find it hard to believe that we can reach a state of loving things as they are, because even if that thing doesn't DIRECTLY give you benefit, it still does in one form or another, and it's subjective depending on the person.

by samakmak_☆; ; Report

I agree with you on how our mind is complicated, and BECAUSE it’s complicated, I came to a different conclusion from you which is interesting. I can get sad/happy for no reason and I can like/dislike for no reason.

Let’s say that you like apples.
Why do you like apples?
Because you like the taste of it.
Why do you like the taste of it?
Because…you just like it.

You can create list of things you like about apples but at the end of the day, you like it because you like it.

Why do you not like how the ocean gives you anxiety??….because you just don’t!!

I’m not sure if this counts as “reason” but I do believe that there’s biological aspects of what we are attracted to. So even if there isn’t any cause, we may be biologically attracted to certain someone/something.

But then again, the truest form of love is accepting that person as a whole, and you don’t need any reason to do that. I compared this to Mother Nature because the moment you “think” it’s not love it’s discrimination. You don’t think you feel. That’s love. Ugh I feel like I’m just repeating myself so I apologize for that.

by Dio; ; Report

Honestly you make a good point.

You like the taste of it just because you do, and although I agree on that, I think there's STILL a reason, but we just can't comprehend it.

But man I do like the point you made omg, thanks for sharing it :3

by samakmak_☆; ; Report

I like how you said some things are beyond our comprehension. It’s kinda similar to the idea of god right? Thank you for this exchange. I really enjoyed it as well, and I love your thoughts.

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