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Like honestly, just making my quick observation of things- how did we become both the victims and the perpetrators without figuring out an answer to either
Because on one half, the incel movement is just skyrocketing despite the fact that its major figures and tenets haven't really helped any men struggling with loneliness, their status as single people, or social harmony
But on the other half, men's mental health is being actively misunderstood to a point where most either refuse to seek help and suffer quietly or snap- and those who do are judged by both their fellow men and up until recently, quite a good few numbers of women
I wish to open up a discussion here about that- What's going on here, my fellow men?
How did we get here?
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santana ☆
as a guy, i can't help but think its all misogyny and homophobia. so many are really lonely bc of that bigotry. hanging out other than to smoke/game is like pointless unless its to invite girls. jokes like calling going out to the movies and dinner, and shit like that being "gay" is one of those signs of how a lot of guys think being isolated is better than being gay or otherwise effeminate. generally speaking, i think everyone is in a community deficit. men are especially in shambles rn because the vulnerability and empathy required for community is the antithesis to the patriarchal expectations for men. unfortunately, a lot of guys would rather actually keel over and die than be honest and get the help that they need. for those who are queer, there are a lot of "men bad" sentiments in lgbtq spaces. regardless of how serious they are, it does create an isolating feeling. i think that also diminishes a lot of community in male queer spaces, as they are being considerate of the intimidation that a solid community of men causes. unless they're drag queens, who are unified by an art that is seen as femme, coming back to the idea of it all being misogyny of some degree. it's all very weird and sad. i think we should just be genuine w each other.
yeah- tbh i couldn't have thought it or said it better
men are too scared of looking like the other gender or being viewed as gay, to be so "othered" and boxed into the unwanted, that even when it lowers their quality of their lives, even when it stops them from forming friends and a real group
it's better than the alternative
that helps paint a picture of some mindsets
we really gotta break these phobias and isms and prejudices if we ever want to heal
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j diane
woman here (so not the target demographic of this blog) but i attribute this to the increased levels of competition in education and the workforce. women who would have been housewives in previous generations will now jump at the opportunity to get a degree and a job. whereas men who have dealt with basically half of the world as their competition for all their lives have had their competitors in jobs and monetary success increase by 100% (literally) and now they feel demotivated since they dont want to work harder for what they could have easily earned before when women were second class citizens.
also, women have historically been relied upon by men to be their emotional caregivers, even moreso than physical (iykwim) at times. since the playing field is basically even now and woman have options other than marriage for money, men who could often marry women easily before are now left with no one else to emotionally bond with. jokes were made about how "unseriously men take friendships" and how "male friendships are chill and low-effort", but the repercussion of these sterile friendships for unmarried men is that some of them truly have no one outside of the family who they feel safe to bond with deeply. since, yk. love and sadness are "feminine" things that men shouldnt experience. apparently.
that makes good sense
tbh men tend to handle competition with a combo of skepticism and panic
combine that with a crippling sense that feeling emotions is weak, and you have very unstable people going towards very unstable solutions
i get it
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maciel
dude here. i think there's a lot of historical and parental issues involved in order to disseminate such mysoginist thoughts.
i think this kinda stuff also affects men, who end up being forced to be "manly"
yeah misogyny tends to negatively affect men, especially their viewpoints towards the other sexes
while there has been an uptick in misandry as of late that does not help, as a whole, a lot of the current male views towards women do HEAVY HEAVY lifting when it comes to creating an environment for discrimination and envy that lead to this bigotry and genderism
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