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Science and Faith


I'm incredibly interested on the different viewpoints concerning faith/spirituality and science. 
Please please answer this question, I'm very intrigued with some of the answers I've gotten. Please also explain your answer... what does it mean TO YOU?

 ...Imagine you have two cups...
Cup 1- Science- The physical proof and scientific evidence of things such as life, chemistry, biology and (my fav)  PROBABILITY!!! 
Cup 2- Faith/spirituality- the theories of other existences, alternate realities, Gods/Goddesses/Higher beings, and FATE.
Do you mix your cups to make sense of the world or is one part of you spiritual and the other skeptic? Does one effect reality more than the other? Is one more valid? 
In my opinion, the more you delve into spirituality and faith, the more your affected by it. What's your opinion? Do they go hand in hand or do they oppose each other? Separate, Interchangeable, Opposing, Interconnected? 
If you simplify the idea of science in general, It's all human Ideas with proof through imperfect human eyes using tools made by imperfect humans. Thoughts? 
You don't have to school me, I know there's more to science however I'm deeply curious as to what you all have to offer. Remember... your reality is unique to you. no one experiences your reality so do not judge someones interpretation of what is a stranger to you. 

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the way I see it, science and faith─or cup 1 and cup 2 as you have put it─have largely reconciled their differences. At the very least there's less tension there and I think far less tension than what most people tend to assume. To be clear science does not rely 100% on physical proof. It relies partially on mathematics which are by definition abstract and immaterial concepts. Faith usually arises when we question how our material world came to be. Some of those more inclined to faith might posit that God was the origin of our world and its natural laws. Chemistry and physics work in a particular way because God designed them to be this way. Some might not buy this but the point is that faith and science through this perspective don't have to yield contention, in which case we would be mixing cup 1 and 2 to understand the world. I wouldn't say one is inherently more valid than the other. One might be more useful depending on the question at hand, but both have potential usefulness depending on the context. Besides the origin of us and the universe, I don't think science and faith are much more interconnected than that.

Unless you totally reject one theory or the other, then you'd view them as separate but I think this is sort of a silly position to be honest. The silliest of assumptions I see is that religion has somehow stunted science and we would be "far more advanced" now had we abandoned religion earlier. This neglects the fact that many renowned scientific and academic advancements came out of some of the most religious periods in history, if not directly from religious institutions themselves. This is a little off-topic but reinforces the point about the lack of contradiction between science and faith.

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I was raised christian, but I've always had doubts about whether or not god exists. In our curiosity we ask ourselves questions that our human brains don't and might never have the capability to answer. Manifestation and the law of attraction exists, If you desire something so much and visualize it coming to you, it does. So could it work the same way with religion? Different people of different religions have said they have experienced encounters with their higher power, these being God, Lady of sorrows, santa muerte, etc. So what if because they believe so much and put their faith in, when they have these encounters, they are seeing what they want to see? In religion, especially christianity there will always be things that can't be reasonably explained, like where did god come from? just like in science there will always be things that can't be fully scientifically explained. I think this is a debate we'll never fully understand until the day we die and hopefully get the answers for all our questions, i doubt this made much sense, but I've always had this on the back of my head.

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this makes so much sense! I agree on many of the things you said. I am a full believer that you can think and manifest things into existence especially with faith and religion. It's a powerful thing that God of versions of him can become more real as you worship just as anything you cannot see.

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