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Controversial topic. The label lesbian and its meaning

Lesbian. Women loving woman

I see people saying non men loving non men

I don’t agree with this. 

Of course it all boils down to preference as some people will only like people who identify as women, or use she her. Or maybe some like they them lesbians

I don’t care how you identify but

I don’t think it should be non men loving non men

Or is there a different title for women loving women

I saw a video and they linked this article when I asked 

But if you are non binary, women loving women will not like you. You are not a woman anymore or never even where. 

They said in the video it was “exclusionary” to trans women. HOW. Are trans women not women? They are in my books.  Obviously there are preferences with that like just not wanting to date someone who used to be socialized as a man due to privilege, or other not shared experiences. But they are still women. They can still be lesbians

Gender fluid people. Sorry you’re not lesbian. I am gender fluid. I’m not a lesbian. I like women. I’m not lesbian though as it would be wrong for me to say I’m a woman. While yes I like to be sometimes and have lived my life as one. I don’t align with it


In the article it made it seem if you like masc stuff you are like non binary? They say they don’t like the rigid gender roles. But like. Idk it just doesn’t make sense to me. (Not insulting genuinely wanna know) “he him lesbians” is a term. At first I was confused but then I realized women can identify with those pronouns but they are still women 

My over all take rn is. If you are a woman (no matter the pronouns) if you identify as a woman. You can be lesbian. 

I don’t think non men loving non men is a good term as it’s a term in my mind for women. I’m aware of the history of he him lesbians. But we no longer have to adopt male pronouns 

Women don’t have to abide by gender norms to be “women”

My friend is butch? Kinda. 

It’s hard I don’t believe in gender norms only the idea

If anyone has questions I’ll try to explain

Please give me your input and ideas


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Do you think it is exclusionary to say he/him or transmasc "lesbians" are NOT lesbians? Asking because I've been told so.


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