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stop caring about it guys, it has no meaning aside of the biological one.
And people w dysphoria are totally valid btw, just in case someone thinks this is anti trans shit.
Im so fucking real with this. Gender is pointless.
gender is so silly
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Dart Highwind
When we reach a genderless society, then people can ease up on it, I suppose.
Yeah, when we reach it. I wish it would be soon, but polarization (in general) is so strong that it even sounds utopian, lmao
by Ray; ; Report
No kidding.
Best we can do is make the ideal a part of our personal lives.
Be the change, y'know?
by Dart Highwind; ; Report
Probably the most reasonable thing to do. If you're part of it, you've already done something at least.
And if by any chance something big changes, you already have your ideals and you will know what to do
by Ray; ; Report
I do my best.
It's tough because of there being people who push against my ideals, but they're worth it to me, so I keep goin.
Everyone should be treated as equal humans. Some people find that a radical take lol
by Dart Highwind; ; Report
Yeah, there are many people who consider it political to want equal treatment for everyone. Dunno, I just can't see a real reason why another human wouldn't deserve the same shit as I do.
It's hard, but your ideals define you after all. Can't change them.
by Ray; ; Report
Ideals can change if you're open to change. I haven't always been that great of a person. The first 25 years of my life have been pretty rough, but I was open to change.
But yeah. That hate is a learned behavior. People are born more empathetic than how some turn out.
If it can be learned, it can also be unlearned. Just gotta be open to it.
by Dart Highwind; ; Report
It would be worrying if someone continued with the ideals they had when they were 15, and as you said, people change a lot. You can go from being a cynic to an optimist in a few months, lol.
In other words, since your identity is something constant and not rigid, your ideals also are remade over time.
If I'm honest, I dunno if there is an undeformable core in relation to yourself or if even the most stable thing can be changed.
by Ray; ; Report
I think the best answer to that is "You don't know what's going to happen until it happens"
This kind of thing applies to people, too.
Trauma can completely flip-flop a person.
Just the same, proper care can return a person back to default empathy.
This is why I try to stay nice, caring, and attentive to people who may not be the best, because I don't know what kind of things they are going through.
Even the smallest compliment on something so menial like a t-shirt can completely flip a person's demeanor.
by Dart Highwind; ; Report
That's a really wholesome approach in life and something that I personally saw is true. I met someone that always was considered like a troublemaker, but he was nice as heck. Mentioned this to him once, and he stuck with it.
We all do shitty things, say things we didn't even think about, and regret even breathing. That's what makes us human, right? This obsession with logic and perfectionism in something as irrational as the human being is simply not compatible.
We all change, improve and get worse. That's the most amazing thing of being alive.
by Ray; ; Report
What a lot of people see as the "perfect" person is horribly skewed.
Perfection to me is when a person has been allowed (and allows themselves) to be genuine. Their true self. Being at peace with themselves, the merging of the light and shadow selves.
If I don't stop, I'll go too deep. You get it ;P
by Dart Highwind; ; Report
Haha xD, you have summarized in a very good way. Basically, when you feel at peace with yourself, when you're aware of who you are and accept it. Being aware is an essential step, but accepting it is a huge step that takes a loooot of time, but depends on the person. Could we say that it is one of the goals that all humans have in common?
And hey, long ass philosophical chats are pretty welcome. Yap as long is needed.
by Ray; ; Report
I don't think that is a goal everyone has. I think coming to that goal requires some kind of exposure, either directly through other people who has it as a goal or indirectly through something really challenging in life. Some sort of cognitive dissonance.
I think it's a fantastic goal to have, but I feel that a lot of people in this world aren't even afforded the time to think about such things because of pressures people have in life.
I think if we adopted a more people-focused society than a money-driven one, people may have more time to battle their demons more effectively and all this bickering and murdering would, at the very least, be reduced.
by Dart Highwind; ; Report
Cognitive dissonance makes a lot of sense. When two schools of thought collide in your mind, you try to question both to find the reasoning that best suits you, resulting in the search of one's ideals/identity. After all, it is inevitable to find two equally good ideas.
And without a doubt, we live in a world where there is a lot of mental pressure and little freedom to have time to think. Being something that affects more than anything the personal, the exterior does not provide you the space.
Needless to say, the way the world is structured is quite strange. It is based on obtaining previously artificially restricted freedoms, and some of them are opened or closed, depending on the wishes of some random people.
Of course, a minimally stable structure is necessary to be able to function on a large scale, but this structure is so inhuman and artificial that I don't quite understand it.
by Ray; ; Report
It's all about control.
Some people have been trained and reinforced all their lives that they need to obtain and keep as much power as possible to be considered a successful person.
It also doesn't help that people are caught up in their lives so much, they don't have a lot of time to think deeply about a lot of things, and the easy answers have a good chance to just take. Sadly, the easy answers can come with lies and the loss of rights, manufacturing consent from their constituents based on rudimentary understandings and half-truths.
It's gross, but it works. If people were allowed to live more comfortably, they'd have more time to ponder such things, and they'd be less governable/controllable because of it.
by Dart Highwind; ; Report
I guess that's the most logical answer. It is a self-feeding structure, so it is difficult for it to collapse naturally. Of course, I personally don't see much point in its existence, but I suppose its roots are human as well. The need to control one's surroundings became a need to control everything and everyone. I guess humans are quite extremist since we want to find a very highlighted and understandable concept, and that's pretty much the reason we've ended up creating these hierarchies of control that have been inherited over time.
Although apart from "stability", I suppose control also comes from something else. Perhaps a desire for our existence to have value and to create that value in a way that we can manage ourselves. If one looks at that value in its naked form, one sees that it's meaningless as well.
Will it ever change?
by Ray; ; Report
Thing is, that's a fairly new way of thinking when you take into account the rest of human history and its regions.
Historically, indigenous tribes had a likelihood of being rather social in their structure, where the care of every member meant survival of the tribe as a whole.
This even extended to gender, to tie back into your post, as many tribal nations didn't have rigid genders and those who didn't fit within the binary had their own specific roles in society as everyone else did.
Humans haven't been around that long of a time compared to the history of the Earth. Likewise, this kind of governance also hasn't been around that long, either, only the past 4-6 thousand years.
Even then, people struggled with this very idea. Read the Epic Of Gilgamesh, which is one of the oldest pieces of surviving literature in human history, which struggles with this exact same topic.
by Dart Highwind; ; Report
Yeah, It is quite curious that this phenomenon is quite "recent", so to speak. I suppose it was partly an attempt to try to organize a society that was becoming increasingly larger. Attempts to classify people so that they can work with them in a more general rather than specific way.
And sure, I'll check out Epic Of Gilgamesh. It never hurts to see that we are not alone in this, lol!
by Ray; ; Report
harvey!!
Real.
Pretty sick to see more people who agrees :1.
by Ray; ; Report