Refuting The Latins

Hello!11!! Here is a refutation to the Roman Catholics Augustine’s 66th Epistle

In Epistle 66 of St. Augustine, this is read: 

“The Holy Spirit is not made from nothing as a creature, but proceeds from the Father and the Son, so that He is not made by the Son.”

In the Paris 1516 edition, Basel 1528 edition, and other later Basel editions; we do not see the words on procession, but only do we read this:

“The Holy Spirit also is not made from nothing as a creature.”

Only do we see that in later Venetian editions these words, where the editor discloses that it was INSERTED from Victorian Books! We can conclude this quote as being false.

Augustine’s Fifth Book On The Trinity

From Latinizers we read this:

“The Holy Spirit is a gift of the Father and the Son, because he proceeds from the Father and the Son.”

Although, in other earlier editions we read this:

“The Holy Spirit is the Gift of the Father and the Son, because he proceeds from the Father, as the Lord says: and because the Apostle says: ‘He who does not have the Spirit of Christ is not His.’ He speaks of the Holy Spirit Himself.”

Augustine’s Fifteenth Book On The Trinity (XXVII)

Latinizing Editions change the word “cognition” to “thought” as to make the Holy Spirit an offspring of the Father and the Son, but the Venetian Edition we mentioned early notes that the word “cognition” appears in older manuscripts. 

Augustine’s Thirty-Eighth Sermon

We read the following in Sermon 38 of Augustine:

“The Holy Spirit is neither unbegotten nor begotten, but must be said, with faith preserved, to proceed only from the Father and the Son, who, not proceeding from the Father into the Son and from the Son to sanctify the creature, as certain people misunderstanding, thought must be believed, but proceeds from both together: because the Father begot such a Son that, just as from Himself, so also from Him the Holy Spirit proceeds.”

If Augustine was writing to people who misunderstand these things, then where are these people? We know that from the Latins themselves that no such controversy occurred, for not even the most deceitful historians will admit these things. There must have been a corruption of the text. 

Augustine’s Ninety-Ninth Tractate On John-Fifteenth Book On The Trinity

We read that in Tractate 99, after Augustine had supposedly proved the Procession of the Holy Spirit proceeding from the Father and the Son, these words:

“These things I have transferred from that sermon into this book (but I speak to the faithful, not to the unfaithful).”

And this proves that there was some corruption of the text, because as we know, there was never once a sort of controversy over this type of procession. The Latinizers have no historical evidence that at the time of Augustine, there was an argument of this sort, therefore we can confidently make the claim that they tampered with these writings.

Augustine’s Sixty-Fifth Dialogue Of Questions, Question Eleven

We read the following:

“The Holy Spirit will not speak from Himself, because He is not from Himself. For the Father is born from no one. The Son is begotten from the Father. The Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son.”

In Other places we read different, such as Tractate XCIX on John:

“The Holy Spirit will not speak from Himself, because He is not from Himself. For the Father alone is not from another: for the Son is begotten from the Father, and the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father.”

It is quite clear there is no mention of the Son being a principle with the Father, so isn’t it quite obvious that the Latinisers corrupted these things?

Augustine’s Fifteenth Book On The Trinity

In the writings of the Holy Father, we read this:

“And yet it is not without reason that in this Trinity only the Son is called the Word of God, and only the Holy Spirit is called the gift of God, and only God the Father is He from whom the Word is begotten and from whom the Holy Spirit principally proceeds. I added ‘principally’ because the Holy Spirit is also found to proceed from the Son.”

Here the Latinisers expose themselves in their corruptions, for we know that Augustine is praising these things exclusive to each Person of the Trinity, so why would he praise the procession of the Spirit from the Father as if it only pertained to the Father? The Latinisers didn’t even think to read the context in which he says these things, and here they expose themselves. We can clearly see that when Augustine is praising the Persons of the Trinity for things that are exclusive to them, that for NO reason whatsoever, he praises the Father for something not exclusive to him and loses consistency in the passage.

Augustine’s Book On The Trinity And Unity

We read this:

“Only the Father is not read to have been sent, because He alone has no author from whom He is begotten or from whom He proceeds; and therefore, not because of a diversity of nature, which does not exist in the Trinity, nor because of the authority of another over Him, only the Father is not said to be sent: for it is not the splendor or heat that sends the fire, but the fire sends either the splendor or the heat. Thus, the Father sends the Son, and the Holy Spirit proceeds from both.”

As we know, most of the chapter in which this is taken from is from Against the Sermons of the Arians. The corresponding area in which this is found, chapter IV, of that writing, is as follows in the following:

“Therefore, not because of diversity of nature, which does not exist in the Trinity, but because of that very authority, only the Father is not said to be sent: for it is not the splendor or the heat that sends the fire, but the fire sends either the splendor or the heat.”

So it is obvious that the latinisers added on to the end of the passage in which we originally find this text.

Augustine’s Book On The Trinity And Unity

We read this:

“The Son is not made from the Father, but begotten, and the Holy Spirit is not made from the Son, but proceeds from the Father and the Son.” 

Now as you all know, this chapter takes from Against the Arians, in which Chapter XXI reads:

“They say the Holy Spirit is made by the Son, which is never read in Scripture; since the Son himself says that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father.”

It is quite clear that the Latins have changed the words and corrupted the text, their shamelessness is a great mystery.

God Bless,