trans-whatever we're gonna call it-phobia

this one is about transandrophobia, or whatever we're gonna call it. from a thread on bluesky that i made and expanding on a little... so my words my opinions.


i think that if we discuss the oppression transmascs face, we gotta point out that while it is systemic, it is interpersonal and it happens specifically because a transmasc is "faking" manhood while "tainting their wombs", leading to othering suggestion that often is along the lines of "why choose to be a man?", " just stay a woman, testosterone is evil," or "you're going to become an angry, ugly, monster."

the oppression transmascs face is similar to the way the patriarchy treats young, impressionable men, and is entirely about forcing said boy to adapt to toxic masculinity (be cis as possible and protected (but mostly abused and used, never loved, see buck angel)) or be outcast as outliers to manhood as "repulsive hairy women" (the route most if not all trans men take for their own sake.)

tmascs can then be seen as targeted by the intersection between transphobia and interpersonal sexism, in a way unique to them regarding sex traits, transsexuality, statistics, abortion, and vaginal health. if transsexed/post-op, this does not change and actually gets worse, as they are now subjected to the late stage of anti-masculinity in radfeminism and queer spaces (violent sexism at the hands of gawkers and cissies, "afab only" in trans communities, genital preference, butchphobia, exorsexism for beilabel.anssexual, etc.)

it gets increasingly difficult to define this intersection and how it destroys young and older transmascs, where it's very hatred is steeped in being as sexist towards those perceived as women and ""owning bio women parts"" without just calling it transmisogyny because it is misogyny, but it is not transmisogyny and without a specific word to discuss this, the prospects of ever being able to actually talk about it is zero to none due to bad actors and the platform of tumblr in particular.

what we can be assured of is that any other term created to discuss this intersection is not sacrificed for a new term but rather elevated as terminology used in said discussions. transandrophobia can become androphobia and refer to something similar to butchphobia and the fear of what masculinity is and how it presents in queer spaces. transmisandry can become to internalized misandry, where a transmasc will bend to the will of others as the bar is too low for them to stand for themselves, as if they do, he is one picked to be excommunicated as an "ugly woman" and deemed an "intolerable bitch". anti-transmasculinity is what it is, just not a good word for the general label

transandrosexism, which isn't sexism against men, it's sexism and bias that uplifts white, cis male figures and other men that succumb to toxic patriarchal masculinity as a way to feel protected by other men and women (without knowing the whole truth, especially if they're a poc or trans.) a transmasc affected by transandrosexism is not feared for being men or masculine as transandrophobia suggests, but is downplayed, assaulted, beaten, and discouraged to be anything other than a cis, white man's model of what the believe transmasculinity should appear as: obedient, young, frail, and victims they can use in their stories to repeat the cycle of "irreversible damage". if anyone falls out of that cis, white man label, they deal with transandrosexism as a systemic and interpersonal pain.


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I know this isn’t necessarily related but I found it interesting and I can speak on behalf of this. As a trans woman I’ve always heard things like “why become a woman you’re just going to become super emotional” or “why would you become a woman right now while their rights are being taken” or just general critiques about my body like that I look to masculine to be a woman. General misogyny/transphobia stuff that I’m used to even from my fellow trans women. But it was surprising to hear the versions of those that trans men hear! I had no idea it was like that (obviously as a trans person I know how oppressed we are I mean just how similar the talking points are to one another). It kind of feels like the traditional toxic masculinity or internalized misogyny but pumped up to ten because they don’t actually believe that we are also men or women. I’m curious if non-binary people have something similar as well. But anyway like I said I know it’s not really related to the actual point you were making I just found it interesting.


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