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Islam, Arabs & misinformation


EDUCATE YOURSELF NOW OR NEVER!

I have seen on here many teens specifically, who haven't been taught or people in general who have some opinions about it I guess but you guys are getting so many facts wrong. Now if you truly want to learn more about Islam you can always go look up on YouTube where sheikh's talk about it or just read the Quran translated to your language! But right now, this rando on the internet is going to just clear up some general info -without going into too much detail- that I have seen people get wrong.

 I advise to read the entire thing before you comment, have patience, keep an open mind and be kind!


Arabs

First and foremost, not every Arab is Muslim and not every Muslim is Arab! The word "Islam" refers to the religion itself whereas the word "Muslim" refers to the person following the religion! here is a sentence for example: 'She is a Muslim, She follows/practices Islam' 'Are you Muslim?' 

Not everyone in the middle east speaks Arabic or is Muslim but yes most are! and not all Arab countries within the middle east speak the same but yes our main language is Arabic, although within the Arab countries, each country has a different "Arabic Dialect". It is similar to "Accents" but slightly different. 

A Dialect is a form of language that is unique to a specific region, meaning not only the accent is different but many words and exclamations, phrases etc. differ depending on the country! It's not like we completely don't understand each other because the language is still Arabic but it is merely a Type of Arabic so we may understand one another on a surface level but there may be some difficulties in between depending on the person. I myself don't understand most Jordanians and Egyptians at all only because their dialects are so different from mine! Plus, I don't have many friends that are Egyptian or Jordanian!

The Khaleej refers to a group of Arab countries that are a part of an Arab Cooperation group so although the middle eastern countries are generally all considered Arab that mainly most speak Arabic, The Khaleej (AKA Arab\Persian GULF AKA GULF countries) countries are still different than Persian countries, that have people who speak a unique language "Farsi" which is its own language! 

So, in short there are Arab Arabs and Persian Arabs, same but different! The people are all different, some are Muslim and some are not.

Not all people in Persian countries are Persian and not all People in Khaleeji countries are Arab. There are Persians who are born and raised in the Khaleej and are considered citizens in the country with a passport and vice versa! I'm Khaleeji, I live in a Gulf country, and I have Persian cousins (from far) and friends, some even only half Persian!

You can look up on Google, Youtube or Tiktok on this matter more but what I really want to clarify is that although we may be known as Muslim Arab countries. The people are just like people all around the world! We have people of different races and religion! 

To add on, No, we do not all just live in camps and deserts unfortunately people still think this and its insane to me. We have deserts yes and we go camping on holidays, but many countries have a lot of greenery here as well and we have many cities, buildings houses, cars and etc, we love our traditions, but we live in the modern day just like everyone else!

Islam

Muslims sin, repent, laugh, make mistakes and live just like everyone else does! I am genuinely tired of people seeing Muslims as people who don't have lives outside of the religion, talking about Muslims like we are some types of creatures or say; "if you're Muslim then aren't you supposed to ___" Muslims try to practice their religion, learn and keep up with it just like you trying to practice your religion! We are people. We are individuals.

The word 'Islam' comes from the Arabic word 'سلم' (SLM) or 'سلام' (SALAM) meaning the word itself meaning 'Peace'. It is a religion that promotes peace ofc lol, kindness, forgiveness and most of all inner peace.

 No, the Quran (our holy book/book guide to Islam) does not promote men hitting women, or whatever you guys have heard, All that is from very VERY old cultures or people and mostly men using the Quran as an excuse to do all these things and twisting the words (referring to the Quran) of Allah (God) while spreading misinformation! On the contrary Islam teaches men to lower their gaze, respect and care for their women!!(sisters, mothers, wives or friends), Islam teaches us to respect and care for our parents and most of all our mothers!!!

Yes, women are encouraged (must) to wear the hijab and cover up but it has to be from Niya (from the heart\ will to do so)

Yes, we pray 5 times a day it is a must, one of the basics of practicing Islam and being Muslim, many such as myself struggle to be consistent but one prayer takes less than 20 or even 10 minutes, it's a me problem but I'm getting better 

Yes, homosexuality and acting upon it with lust especially is Haram (a sin). Acting upon lust whether it is homosexual or not, it is Haram (AKA sex or sexual acts before marriage). We can't support you guys, but we respect you as human beings!

Yes, Men can have 4 wives BUT if only he can provide for all equally according to their needs as well as the children!

Marriage in Islam. There Is a contract for consent and rights for both the man and woman but I'm still learning about that myself. 

One of the man's rights in Islam is; 'if he isn’t ordering her to do something that Allah and His Messenger forbade, she has to obey him. And on the other side, he can’t oppress her, abuse her, or mistreat her.'  so, you guys can now stop thinking that Islam teaches women are slaves to their husbands because it does NOT. Fun fact I was told they shouldn't leave their wives alone for more than four months AKA It is encouraged for Husbands to not neglect their wife. Both have to respect, care, be trustworthy and love one another; He has to respect her, not oppress her, mistreat her, or ask her to do unreasonable things. She has to be good to him, treat him well and respect him. basically, giving each other the bare minimum. Respect and Care.

I have seen many comments on how badly Muslim men treated their women in the past and in some families still happening but those are NOT what Islam teaches. I recommend you read this blog if you are interested in the matter about how our prophet encourages us to treat our partners; https://explore-islam.com/prophet-muhammad-as-a-husbend/ 

If you want to know more, there is well the Quran, Hadiths and many many blogs, sites and knowledgeable influencers who are happy to teach you the details about Islam.

In conclusion, In Islam, even if you see someone sinning or supporting something even Islam doesn't support. you should still respect the person, you can advise and encourage the person but not force, judge, shame or oppress them! I think this is all I have to say and clear up. I am not perfect, no one is, and I am constantly trying and learning about my religion!

Don't ask me "but what if you fall in love with the same gender" "what if it's not lust" I'd rather not go down on that memory lane...just SHHSHSHSSSH aaah! do your research, your girl is logging off for today.

Fellow Muslims if I have gotten anything wrong just let me know, kindly!

Note: if you have read this far thanks! I love yapping about things I'm passionate about! Please read my other blogs! oh and before I log off I am aware that what is practiced by the people is not exactly what is Taught unfortunately that is the kind of world we live in and at the end of the day we are all human beings, this post is meaning to say that you cannot Judge, shame or pin or see an entire community based on what specific cultures/group of people do because we are INDEVIDUALS. gn.

Edit: why did the point of this blog flew over everyone's heads, I can't.

-Em 💗


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Zed ☥

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excuse my english as this was a mess to type, I'm a muslim myself, living in Egypt since birth and it's funny how people put their time and effort to make up a mindset that islam is the religion of hate, envy, pedophilia, terrorism and so on, everything you said was correct and yet it seems like it doesn't satisfy people who clearly have been whitewashed and fed misinformation that they call it "hyperfixation on disproving false facts" as if its a side hobby they do, all of their sources which are usually false or inncorrectly translated are their main idea of what islam is.

here in egypt where we have an almost 80% of a muslim population, culturally and morally nothing of these false facts exist, you see happy households, actual educated minds and no one seems to go around marrying children apparently, its a known fact that hitting women simply gets your ass beaten by other men, or jail time for a good while, pedophilia and usually sent to deathrow, we even had a case where a man assulted a little child, had the entire country flipped on its side trying to get him a straight ticket to deathrow, it doesnt even happen in less educated country sides as not only are your required to be able to provide, maintain a source of income and a vehicle, you need to also be clear as a person and overall a good soul, (which is also mentioned in the quran), yes its possible that things like underaged marriage or adult/child marriages happen, and its usually straight up jailtime if so, women also have the full power to divorce their husbands, even if its as simple as a singular slap, most men on the streets attack perverted men who even look sexually at a woman.

now i really havent read the entire thread as its filled with (insane islamaphobes who try their hardest to attack any living muslim), neither did i mention things directly from the quran or about the prophet as im not educated enough on these specific topics and i dont want to say something incorrect which *will* be used against me, for the love of god people try to talk to actual muslims and stop believing everything you see and hear


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LMAO so, you call us "insane Islamophobes", accuse us of "making up hateful mindsets", call us brainwashed and fed misinformation -- yet you provide NO sources, absolutely nothing to back up what you're saying, and you literally admit yourself that you aren't educated about the topics we're discussing.

"All of their sources are usually false" So you're saying the Quran is false, then? Because my sources are directly from the Quran and Hadiths. "Incorrectly translated" is a weak ass dismissal of anything that comes from your own book which makes you uncomfortable.

"Here you see happy households and actual educated minds" The average IQ of Egypt is 76 dude. That is a whole 6 points away from intellectual disability, so don't even try to pull that thumb-nose bullshit LOL

"no one seems to go around marrying children apparently, yes its possible that things like underaged marriage or adult/child marriages happen, and its usually straight up jailtime if so" Not really. While the legal age of marriage in Egypt is -technically- 18, child marriage is NOT criminalized. Tons of child marriages still happen under informal means like "customary" or "religious ceremonies" (Urfi marriages), often organized by imams themselves. The marriage is not officially registered with the state until the girl turns 18, therefore allowing people to circumvent the legal age requirements and marry their daughters off as children. In 2017, Egypt recorded 118,000 child marriages, with accounted for 40% of all marriages in Egypt annually.

Also, even if they do in the future make some law against it, Egypt is notorious for not enforcing their laws when it comes to women and children. FGM was criminalized in 2007, yet it still actively continues even after expanded jail terms to 20 years in 2021. These laws turn out to be little more than ink on paper, weakly enforced (if enforced at all).

"i really havent read the entire thread as its filled with insane islamaphobes" = "I've ignored all the actual arguments that disproved everything I'm saying, so that I can call you all liars and uneducated"

"for the love of god people try to talk to actual muslims" Oh, but you see, I HAVE. My best friend of 10+ years was born and raised in a Syrian Muslim family. Her father and his entire side of the family abused her, her sisters, and their mother. Her uncles frequently abused their wives and daughters in the same manner. She was regularly threatened with "honor killing" if she ever chose not to wear her Hijab. One of her uncles literally locked her in a closet for HOURS while he searched through her phone, looking for any reason to do it. I have multiple pictures and videos she sent me of her bruises from being punched or thrown down stairs. She literally sent me them because she was afraid that if they did kill her, they would also erase all the evidence of their abuse.

She now teaches at a majority Muslim preschool, and tells me many of the little boys there already mistreat their female classmates. Wake the fuck up, this is what your Islam teaches. You can lie to us all you want using your Tawriya, Taqiyya and all the other forms of lying to non-believers that your Quran allows, but we already know the truth.

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holy yap. if muslims do bad stuff... its not cause of islam, this is not what islam teaches. and if you believe so... idk cope.

this is a problem in modern "muslim" countries, rarely anyone follows islam

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"holy yap" LMAO holy argument that you can't refute, holy you have no actual defense against it, holy Tawriya. Like I said, y'all can bullshit about "this isn't what Islam teaches" all you want, we know the truth and we can literally read about it in your own books. Trying to pretend and gaslight your way out of your own religion is THE purest copium dude.

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i wasnt arguing, just passed by to shoot spitballs at you. believe what you want

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Dana Scully

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You suggest to read the Quran translated to our native language -- I have, and quite frankly the second half of this blog is the most sugarcoated version of Islam I've ever seen. Let's start with the things you deny.

1. "No, the Quran does not promote men hitting women, or whatever you guys have heard"

This is easily disproven with numerous verses from the Quran, as well as multiple Hadiths. Qur'an 4:34: "The good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great." Qur'an 38:41-44: "And take in your hand a green branch and beat her with it and do not break your oath; surely We found him patient; most excellent the servant!"

Muhammad hit Aisha many times throughout the Quran, and also allowed other men to hit her and Hafsa (Abu Dawud 11:2139-2142). Later on, Muhammad gives a decree instructing men to not beat their wives -- but changes his mind once Umar informs him that some of the women have "become emboldened" towards their husbands. He responds by stating "they are not the best among you, and a man will not be asked as to why he beats his wife."

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2. "I have seen many comments on how badly Muslim men treated their women in the past and in some families still happening but those are NOT what Islam teaches."

On the contrary, your prophet Muhammad laughed when Umar told him he slapped his wife because she asked for money. And once again had no problems hitting Aisha (or letting other men hit her). He also gaslight a woman who came to him for help, bruised from her husband beating her. Aisha pled on her behalf, but Muhammad believed the husband over her, who claimed her complaint was that he wasn't sexually satisfying her (Sahih Muslim 9:3526-3527). Muhammad then tells the woman that she cannot leave her abuser to remarry her previous husband unless she has had sex with him.

Muhammad also believed a woman was only worth half of a man in terms of intelligence, witness and competence. Qur'an 2:282: "O you who believe! when you deal with each other in contracting a debt for a fixed time, then write it down; and let a scribe write it down between you with fairness... if he is not able to dictate himself, let his guardian dictate with fairness; and call in to witness from among your men two witnesses; but if there are not two men, then one man and two women from among those whom you choose to be witnesses, so that if one of the two errs, the second of the two may remind the other... this is more equitable in the sight of Allah and assures greater accuracy in testimony."

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3. "It is a religion that promotes peace, kindness, forgiveness and most of all inner peace."

If I had a dime for every time I've heard "religion of peace", I'd be rich enough to hire assistants to respond to this shit FOR me.

Qur'an 9:29: "Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection."

You can try to paint that any way you want, but it says what it says. Your religion cannot be of peace when the very book it follows tells you to fight everyone who doesn't believe.

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4. Now let's talk about the bigger elephants in the room, that you did not mention. Your prophet married a 6-year-old little girl, and had sex with her when she was 9. (In a hadith recorded in Sahih al-Bukhari, Aisha recalls being married at the age of six.) I see Muslims argue all the time that "it actually means 9 years after puberty", but it's specifically noted by both Aisha and others that she played with dolls. Assuming she entered puberty at 10 (a generously young guess), that would've made her 19. What 19-year-old, which at that time would've been considered an adult, plays with dolls?

Also, the Quran literally allows for men to have sex with prepubescent children -- and even provides specific requirements for them to be able to do so. Qur'an 65:4: "Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same)."

Even Aisha herself had doubts about Muhammad's legitimacy as a prophet, insinuating that he faked "revelations" in order to fulfill his desires and allow himself exceptions to the rules which other men had to follow. Sahih al-Bukhari 4788: "I used to look down upon those ladies who had given themselves to Allah's Messenger, and I used to say, 'Can a lady give herself to a man?' But when Allah revealed: 'You, O Muhammad, can postpone whom you will of your wives, and you may receive any of them whom you will; and there is no blame on you if you invite one whose turn you have set aside temporarily.' I said to the Prophet, 'I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your own wishes and desires.' "

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5. After accidentally leaving Aisha behind after a raid, they did not come back for her, despite her belief that they would. Instead, a young Muslim man who had lagged behind found her sleeping in a field, and took her home on his camel. A rumor was spread, which Muhammad believed, that Aisha had committed adultery with the young man. He asked Usama ibn Zayd and Ali for their opinions. Usama vouched for Aisha's innocence, but Ali said, "Women abound; you can easily find a substitute. Ask her slave; she might reveal the truth." When the slave girl arrived, Ali beat her severely before questioning her (Ibn Ishaq: p 496).

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6. Probably the most damning thing, which would significantly invalidate your whole post here, is the existence of Taqiyya. Taqiyya is one of several forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted in Islam under certain circumstances. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause of Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them. Or lying about elements of Islam to make it look more appealing to prospective converts.

Quran 3:28: "Let not the believers take the disbelievers as Auliya (supporters, helpers, etc.) instead of the believers, and whoever does that will never be helped by Allah in any way..."

Quran 66:2: "Allah has already ordained for you the dissolution of your oaths..." The circumstances for betraying your word are not specified, leaving this verse open to interpretation. According to Yusuf Ali in his commentary: "if your vows prevent you from doing good, or acting rightly, or making peace between persons, you should expiate the vow." Presumably, whatever advances the cause of Islam would qualify as 'doing good'.

Quran 40:28: "And a believing man of Fir'aun's (Pharaoh) family, who hid his faith said: 'Would you kill a man because he says: My Lord is Allah, and he has come to you with clear signs (proofs) from your Lord?' " A man is introduced as a believer, but one who had "hid his faith" among those who were not believers. So, Muslims are allowed to lie in order to hide the fact that they follow Islam.

Quran 3:54: "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme is makara, which means 'cunning,' 'guile' and 'deceit'. If Allah is supremely deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same.

Sahih Bukhari 49:857: "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar." In other words, lying is permissible when the end justifies the means.

Sahih Bukhari 84:64-65 -- Speaking from a position of power at the time, Ali confirms that lying is permitted in order to deceive an "enemy." The Quran defines the 'enemy' as "disbelievers" (4:101).

Sahih Bukhari 50:369 -- Describes the murder of a poet, Ka'b bin al-Ashraf, at Muhammad's insistence. The men who volunteered for the assassination used dishonesty to gain Ka'b's trust, pretending that they had turned against Muhammad. This drew the victim out of his fortress, where he was slaughtered.

There are several other types of "permissable lying" as well -- Kitman (lying by omission), Tawriya (intentionally creating a false impression by saying something that's technically true, when knowing the listener will interpret it in a different way), and Muruna (blending in by setting aside some practices of Islam or Sharia).

Muhammad used deception when he signed a 10-year treaty with the Meccans, which allowed him access to their city while he secretly prepared his own forces for a takeover. He broke the treaty 2 years later, and some of the residents who had trusted his word were executed. He used a similar tactic on Usayr ibn Zarim, requesting a meeting pretending to seek peace, but once vulnerable, Muhammad's men slaughtered him and his 30 companions. They were likely unarmed, having been promised safe passage. (Ibn Ishaq 981, Ibn Kathir v.4 p.300).

Because of deceptive stunts like this, Muhammad and early Muslims gained a reputation for lying and killing even those who accepted Islam. When Muslim missionaries approached the Jadhima tribe, one tribe member insisted they would be slaughtered even though they had already converted to Islam. The others insisted they could trust the Muslim leader's promise that they wouldn't be harmed if they simply offered no resistance.... But after convincing the skeptic to throw down his arms, the missionaries tied up and beheaded all the men of the tribe. (Ibn Ishaq 834 & 837)

This trend of deception still continues today, both in predominantly Muslim countries, and anywhere else that Muslims are present. The UK in particular is beginning to feel it. Yassir Arafat openly referenced "Hudaibiya" - an admission to conning guillible non-Muslims. The 9/11 hijackers practiced deception by going into bars and drinking alcohol, thus throwing off potential suspicion that they were fundamentalists plotting jihad. The transmission from Flight 93 records the hijackers telling their doomed passengers that there is "a bomb on board" but that everyone will "be safe" as long as "their demands are met."

New York just elected a Muslim mayor who openly refuses to denounce his previous "globalize the antifada" statements, and who blatantly said in an interview that Muslims were "here to take over" America. The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) insists that it "has not now or ever been involved with the Muslim Brotherhood, or supported any covert, illegal, or terrorist activity or organization." -- when in fact, it was created by the Muslim Brotherhood and has bankrolled Hamas. The Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) is so well known for lying about its ties to terror and extremism that books have been written on the subject.

In 2013, a scholar at the prestigious al-Azhar university decreed that Muslims may wear the cross in order to deceive Christians into thinking they are friendly. He cited that 3:28 verse which says not to be friends with non-Muslims unless it is a way of "guarding" yourself against them.

I'm going to leave it here since this is getting quite long -- but hopefully this serves as educational and eye-opening, if not to you, than to anyone else reading your post who thinks Islam is anything you claimed.


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you summarized it so well.

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Thank you; researching things and composing factual arguments is one of my hyperfixations LOL

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ashton

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thank you for this blog! i honestly do not know much about Muslim people or Arabs but this opened my eyes to so much stereotypes I've witnessed.
it disgusts me that people treat Muslims so horribly because of their religion and do not recognize you're all individual people, who may have varying personal beliefs.
it must be frustrating to hear that people can't comprehend the complexities of mistranslations and a religion that has been around for roughly 1,400 years. like,, obviously not everything written then we as a society now will fully accept or understand.
for example, i do not fully understand why you can't support gay people. although i am gay myself, i do respect your beliefs and religion. I do appreciate that you clarified acting upon lust whether gay or not, is a sin and that you respect us as people.
i hope you have a wonderful day, I'm sorry you've received so much hate from this post. god bless you :)


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thank you for this info! this was actually really intresting


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4:34
It literally says that a man is allowed to beat his wife. Personally I can't support a religion that condones that no matter what the context is.


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I DO know about islam, I've studied (and still am studying) religion extensively and deeply, so don't tell me that I know "nothing". It's not spreading misinformation, it's literally there in the Quran. The way y'all pick and choose what the Quran really says and doesn't say is questionable.

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the aya you mentioned tells men to discipline their wives gently if they are acting unruly. theres nothing wrong with that

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"disciplining your wives gently" who exactly are they to "discipline" their wives? I thought men and women were treated as equals in islam, so why is it that men are allowed to discipline women and not vice versa? why would it be okay?

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who says the wife cant discipline the guy too. the prophet muhammed said: "Whoever among you sees an evil, let him change it with his hand; if he cannot, then with his tongue; and if he cannot, then with his heart—and that is the weakest of faith."
— Sahih Muslim
if someone does smth bad, discipline them

this goes for all muslims, wife to husband included.

and Aisha, prophet muhammeds wife, would always question and debate the prophet himself! he never got mad or did anything bad to her

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questioning the prophet is not the same as questioning Allah. besides, what does "disciplining them gently" exactly mean?

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questioning the prophet doesnt mean questioning allah... what does that mean. plus would the prophet say something allah wouldnt like? no... i dont get what you were trying to say there. also discipline them gently is like. no ma'am you cant be doing that blah blah blah. lecturing really. ALSO that word "Idrabhuna" most likely means divorce

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sorry, was commenting on two different posts and i mixed up the topics.
back to the topic; it most definetly did not mean just "lecturing" your wife. the double standards here are pretty odd. it's inconsistent to say that "oh it can be interpreted differently" when at the same time some of yall are homophobic because of some verses in the quran (that could ALSO be interpreted differently). i just don't understand this contradiction.

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muslims being homophobic isnt good, in islam we should respect everyone, even if we disagree with them. being LGBT and supporting them is the haram part. homophobia is bullying, treating them like they are worthless and not speaking and wanting to be around someone just because hes gay, which is not what islam is about. the muslims who do that are doing smth haram

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also the verse about lgbt is very clear "And remember when Lot scolded the men of his people, saying, “Do you commit a shameful deed that no man has ever done before?
You lust after men instead of women! You are certainly transgressors.” being gay is haram, pretty clear cut

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"Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allāh has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allāh would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them [lightly]. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allāh is ever Exalted and Grand.".

with your logic, it's also pretty clear in here that physically hurting your own wife is encouraged.

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its not clear cause if you read it in arabic, the word strike is "idrabhuna" it has many meanings and has been used in the quran a couple of times as a way of saying to seperate, or, to walk away. this cant be an encouragement to beat your wife because the prophet muhammed was very against that "Could any of you beat his wife as he would a slave, and then lie with her in the evening?” "The best of you are those who are best to their wives." "The Messenger of Allah never struck anything with his hand, not a woman, nor a servant."

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"The Messenger of Allah never struck anything with his hand, not a woman, nor a servant."

LMAO, wrong. Sahih Muslim 4:2127: "and as I lay down in the bed, he (the Holy Prophet) entered the (house), and said: 'Why is it, O 'A'isha, that you are out of breath?' I said: 'There is nothing.' He said: 'Tell me or the Subtle and the Aware would inform me.' I said: 'Messenger of Allah, may my father and mother be ransom for you,' and then I told him (the whole story). He said: 'Was it the darkness (of your shadow) that I saw in front of me?' I said: 'Yes.' He struck me on the chest which caused me pain, and then said: 'Did you think that Allah and His Apostle would deal unjustly with you?' "

Muhammad also allowed OTHER men to hit Aisha. In Abu Dawud 11:2139-2142, Abu Bakr informs Muhammad that he slapped Khadijah’s daughter, and Muhammad responds by laughing and tells Abu Bakr his wives are asking him for more money. Abu Bakr and Umar (the second Rightly-Guided Caliph of Islam) respond by slapping Muhammad's wives, Hafsa and Aisha. Later on Muhammad gives a decree instructing men to not beat their wives, but changes his mind once Umar informs him that some of the women have "become emboldened" towards their husbands. The women complain to Muhammad, and he responds by stating "they are not the best among you, and a man will not be asked as to why he beats his wife."

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muhammed didnt hit aisha. in arabic the word used was "lahaqdani" means push or nudge, it could have hurt but wasnt intended to, a nudge is not a punch or a slap. if it WAS something harmful or humiliating, Aisha would have mentioned it clearly. Instead she told this story, without anger or accusation. Aisha never described him as abusive or violent. She continued to love and deeply respect him. She narrated over 2000 hadiths and is one of the most respected scholars in Islam! why would she do all that for someone who would beat her up.

abubakr is the father of aisha and omar is the father of hafsa... its not just him inviting random passer bys to slap his wives. the Prophet did not COMMAND or approve the violence!! he laughed awkwardly when Abu Bakr hit her because he was surprised or uncomfortable. And the prophet didnt approve obviously cause he later instructed men to not beat their wives and stuff

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I'm sorry, which part of "He struck me on the chest *WHICH CAUSED ME PAIN*" did you not understand? Does that sound like a "nudge" to you? The verse literally described her being OUT OF BREATH from it. Also, I looked up the word you used "lahaqdani" and got no results. It's not even a fucking word.

"She narrated over 2000 hadiths and is one of the most respected scholars in Islam! why would she do all that for someone who would beat her up?" I don't know, why do women today stay with their abusive husbands? Why do Muslim women who are regularly beaten by their husbands or fathers insist on staying with them? Some women stay to the point of being murdered. This doesn't mean they magically weren't abused because "well clearly they didn't mind!"

"abubakr is the father of aisha and omar is the father of hafsa... its not just him inviting random passer bys to slap his wives." Oh, so that makes it ok because it was their fathers who hit them? Talk about missing the fucking point. X.X

"he laughed awkwardly when Abu Bakr hit her because he was surprised or uncomfortable." Ah yes, because you were there lmao.

"the prophet didnt approve obviously cause he later instructed men to not beat their wives and stuff" AND THEN IMMEDIATELY CHANGED HIS MIND, as I already quoted from that same verse. Abu Dawud 11:2139-2142 there it is again since apparently you can't fucking read.

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you are very emotionally charged

scholars agree that it was a nudge or a push that wasnt intended to cause pain... plus that word supports it... i literally speak arabic. and she wasnt out of breath from the push, she was out of breath before it even happened.

you silly wacky person do people in abusive relationships say over 2000+ hadith that she learned from her abuser even AFTER his death? she never said ANYTHING about him being abusive even after his death? she was known for speaking up, she litteraly led a rebel army, and you think she wouldnt speak up? yeah some women get abused and stay with their abuser and all that... but thats not what is happening here between muhammed and aisha!!

no it doesnt make it ok... thats why he made that rule

you werent there either... plus if it was a laugh of joy why would he make that rule? and this is what islamic scholars agree on too

you fool i litteraly talked about this
as i said earlier: "its not clear cause if you read it in arabic, the word strike is "idrabhuna" it has many meanings and has been used in the quran a couple of times as a way of saying to seperate, or, to walk away."

I think were just going in circles at this point. we clearly see things differently, so lets just agree to disagree and move on. no need to keep arguing forever

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Lmao yeah ok, I'm the silly wacky fool when you're the one who's deliberately ignoring what your own fucking book says. I'm "emotionally charged" when literally all you do is lie.

"no it doesnt make it ok... thats why he made that rule" WHICH HE CHANGED HIS MIND ABOUT LATER, istg how many times are you going to completely ignore the second half.

"we clearly see things differently" Yeah no shit, I see reality and you either lie about it or you're just that fucking brainwashed. So yeah, I'm done arguing with you and you can go back to Tawriya or whatever tf you do in your spare time other than making stuff up to make Islam look better.

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oh boo hoo cry me a river. bring me an order of nothing burger with french cries. call the wambulance. fine if you think muslims are bad and the quran is lies or whatever so be it

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This is wonderful, respectfully, I love you!!


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You don't know your own quran and hadiths, it is a perverted religion, go watch some Sam Shamoun


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Hey! sooo your bible is even more perverted as it calls for women to stfu in church, marry their r@psts, your Christian pastors SA kids on the daily, and they're so scary that they make HORROR MOVIES off of them! hope this helps <3

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Uhm the bible doesn't say ANY of that???? also at church EVERYBODY gotta stfu, that's kinda the whole thing? And if were gonna highlight incidents where pastors are pedophiles, lets not forget how one of Muhammad's wives was A LITERAL CHILD. and don't dust off the countless murders your most holy prophet is responsible for. on addition go watch some Testify on YouTube.

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Read your own fucking book babes!
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 + 25:11-12 + psalm 137:9
Also ive clarified that this topic has been addressed by many scholars by comparing his wife's age (aisha) to her sister (asma) and calculating their age difference. Aisha was 18 when she married him.
And if you're gonna bring up "killings" just remember that the jews been murdering Palestinian babies, woman and civilians & bombing their hospitals since 1948 using your fabricated torah as an excuse. USA alone has murdered and abused many muslims in iraq, afghanistan, vietnam etc..

The prophet PBUH only called for war when it was necessary. He LITERALLY had a jew neighbor that he never hurted, THE JEWS back then were traitors.

Go back 2 school babe. I suggest you self reflect instead of being islamophobic xoxo

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Kudos to the above reply goated, also i'm just gonna leave this here

Sahih Muslim 6421, Sahih al-Bukhari 5134 -> Sahih al-Bukhari 6130, Surah 4:24

Surah 3:3 -> John 10:30, John 5:18, Mark 2:5

Surah 22:6 -> John 5:21, Matthew 9:23-26, Luke 7:14

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The amount of misinformation spread about Islam is disgusting, it's even more sad that people wo call themselves Muslim twist the words of the Qur'an which in it of itself is like the most Haram thing you can do, I pray one day that people start realising that this misinformation is stupid and spread by the extremists (btw it is also haram- to be extreme in Islam) and the Islamophobes


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"Misinformation" LMAO y'all are literally the masters of misinformation -- the Quran and Hadith literally describe Allah as a master of deceit (Quran 3:54) x.x Not to mention Taqiyya, Tawriya, Kitman, Muruna -- y'all literally have special names for types of lying to non-believers that are acceptable as long as it "furthers the cause of Islam".

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To everyone who is finding an excuse to be islamophobic, read this.

First of all, i AM muslim and i dont bring it up in any context because no one should give a fk about what i BELIEVE in. I practice in private because its no one's business.
Over time, Muslims have developed different interpretations of the religion, leading to various sects. Some are extremely twisted and overly strict with madeup stuff, and some being super gentle.

1- 99% of islam is about YOUR religion with Allah/God and INTENTION, things people don't and shouldn't see otherwise it'll be REYA(show-off) and is deemed BAD.

2-Islam calls for peace, charity work, helping animals, shelter orphans, smiling at strangers, acting kind with family, having faith and hoping for the best, being humble, feeding the needy, showing love, making money the LEGAL way, self respect. a simple "Do good, don't do bad" scheme. IF YOU EVER DARE be unfair/hurt/steal someone, ALLAH wont forgive you— unless that person does.

3-Most religions were heavily influenced on patriarchy. This changed overtime. All religions think they are "the only truth" but that doesn't mean i'll resent you or force you to what i believe in, idgaf, but YOU MUST respect me. Think vegans. EVEN in WAR, Islam PROHIBITS hurting non-combatants in war, including women, children, the elderly and animals. NOT EVEN trees!

4- MANY things in Islam were cancelled afterwards due to changes of circumstances because Islam IS flexible yet belief in god still stays. EX; slavery (also existed in Christianity and was ended after)

5- YOU MAY SEE the opposite of what i said happening in uneducated countries who fabricated Islam. They DONT REPRESENT it. Islam was and is and will never be about crossing peoples boundaries, hurting others of forcing them into what they dont want.

6- NOT ALL MUSLIMS believe in the SAME stuff. SAME THING FOR CHRISTIANITY AND JUDAISM, not ALL OF YALL do what's exactly in your book and btw yall have your OWN controversial stuff in your religions (Christianity clearly asked women to SHUT UP in churches and be submissive to their husbands...) and i'm not here to correct you or judge you for it— idgaf, just be kind.

We, muslims, dont owe anyone any explanation for the way we live or what we believe in, be kind and accept us as we are because being islamophobic in 2025 is FUCKING crazy.

Peace out.


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1-“name one woman’ LMAO. Heard of Jules Woodson? a pastor assaulted her when she was 17 & the church leadership told her to forgive him and not report it. Sister jesme in india too.
2-So many pastors abuse their power and assault people, Robert Morris is one. Uneducated countries WILL twist ANY religion just to justify their crimes, this is a political issue to mass control ppl thru religion. If the bible was truly from God, we wouldn’t really see the triple K group arising and so many brain-washing cults using Christianity as its core system. In El Salvador, abortion is banned under Christian moral law. Children are forced to carry pregnancies to term. That speaks LOUUUUDER.
3-Acting like nuns don’t exist? They literally VOW against marriage and having kids and live the rest of their lives thinking that makes them “pure virgins” and you have verses in the bible like Exodus 21:7–11 (Selling Daughters as Servants) and Deuteronomy 22:28–29 (Forced Marriage After R@pe)...
4- modern Muslim scholars argue this age is misunderstood as there are other historical records to suggest she was around 18. By referring & comparing it to the the age of her sister, and the timeline of early Islamic events suggests inconsistencies with the 6-9 years old story.
5- Wars do happen, kid. The prophet had a Jewish neighbor who used to throw trash infront of his house, and when that jew got sick, the prophet still visited him. Lets not bring up politics into this, because jews INVADED Palestine due to “religious reasons” and have k@illed more than 90,000 and 100,000 Palestinians since 1948 INCLUDING fucking children.
6- idgaf about what you believe in either, but whatever it is, KNOW that your very own beliefs are considered just as shaky, because most religions were based on patriarchy, and that changed overtime. No rights or wrongs here, just admit you’re islamophobic still thinking we are terrorists when even an atheist would commit a hate crime if they want it.

I will also name one joke.. Being named “Chris” and being that ignorant to what Christianity has to offer.
Get help.

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If the Quran is the perfect word of Allah that was written by Allah himself, then how come Muslims are allowed to just ignore or modify parts of the Quran (for example: slavery, child marriage, marriage laws etc)?

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You really went all the way down to my profile expecting to see me pray there or read Quran outloud? Get a grip. I am who i am and my faith is something thats within me and nothing that i need to resemble or show to you. Christianity forbids sex before marriage yet most of yall still do it anyway, being muslim doesn't necessarily mean i will follow everything in the book, we vary and we are different even among each other. I clearly replied to everything you mentioned so theres no point to keep convincing you since you're too ignorant to even understand the complexity of islam as a religion and as a whole system politically and historically let alone the Arabic language as you've danced around it in another comment. My faith and my actions are NON of your business fool, and i aint no "perfect muslim woman" the same way churches want to keep virgin nuns for the priest to touch when he likes. Peace out xoxo & thanks for stalking me!

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Jesus christ just block each other not reporting eachother to get the posts taken down.
You want censorship not moderation, stop being bigots.
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Assalamu alaikum 💖


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Honestly, after reading both the Bible (King James) and the Quran, I can confidently say the Quran comes off as far more rule-heavy. The Bible isn’t perfect either, but it generally feels less restrictive when measured against what the UN defines as basic human rights.

I’ve done school projects comparing Sharia-based governments to the Quran itself, and in most cases, they’re actually following it pretty closely. The difference is, they turn those guidelines into enforceable laws—and then dish out the punishments themselves. That’s how you end up with some of the extreme stuff you hear coming out of those countries. The Quran does say it.

At the end of the day, religion should be a personal thing. Christianity, Islam, doesn’t matter. The second it becomes law, I start to lose respect for it.


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"Yes, women are encouraged (must) to wear the hijab and cover up but it has to be from Niya (from the heart\ will to do so)"

"Yes, homosexuality and acting upon it with lust especially is Haram (a sin)"

"Yes, Men can have 4 wives BUT if only he can provide for all equally according to their needs as well as the children!"

cmon bro


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Yea those are right points I understand ( I'm Muslim)
I thought you were complaining ab Islam

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I have been meaning to read this blog, and it helps me understand a bit better! I'm sorry you guys get attacked by people who only go by word of mouth and not actually doing research :/ I really want to read the Quran to understand it more. I have a few Muslim friends, and they're such lovely people. So many people forget that no one is perfect, everyone sins, we're humans. Thank you for sharing and educating others :]


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I definitely encourage you to go ahead and read the Quran, it will be eye-opening. And will also show you why this entire post is bullshit. "Being super nice" is literally their specialty -- except it's deceit encouraged by the Quran which specifically tells Muslims not to be truthful with non-believers.

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JazakAllah Khair sister

This is a really good breakdown of some of the main misconceptions around Islam

I think the main issue is when people don't have a chance to properly interact with Muslims in their day-to-day life, I live in the UK and work and study with lots of non-Muslims, and whenever they have the opportunity to meet real Muslims and see what we're like people generally tend to like Muslims.


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As a Christian I have a lot of disagreements with Islam, but I do think people get a lot wrong about Islam, and also the different individuals who identify as Muslim. People could really learn more about each other, as well as learn to disagree without hatred. Most people don't change worldview just because they lost a debate or fight, which means we shouldn't approach religion in debate, but rather in discussion, experience, and tolerance; which seems to be what you are doing with this post :)


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Indeed. Wise words

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Thank You, There’s such a negative stigma around islam as a whole, no matter how many times you try to educate people they’ll still be stuck in ignorance.
Islam is such a beautiful religion and without even doing research people automatically assume we’re evil or being force or are oppressed


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Lmao gee, I wonder whyyyyy there's such a negative stigma. Couldn't be because it's not actually a peaceful religion and their literal Quran tells them it's acceptable to do all kinds of shitty things.

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Thank you! I grew up in an islamic household (although i am not religious myself anymore) and i see many of my friends spreading misinformation about islam, and it hurts me. Imo, i think its a beautiful religion. It hurts me when my friends say they dont feel safe around my mom because shes a hijabi.


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Most of the europe thinks Turkiye is an arab country becouse that most of the people are muslims (our counrry is not muslim, but people are) and actually wtf? Some even think we ride camels and live on a desert


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That is crazy! considering Turkey is leaning more to West Asia! it's more green than desert LOL

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What do you think of Muhammed marrying aisha when she was 6


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Nothing, because that was over a billion years ago. Humans evolved many times since then! We can't push the norm of now to the norm of back then

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If Muhammed is a prophet of God then surely he should be morally righteous in his actions

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Read my reply again, friend, Muhammed (PBUH) was still human first of all and like I said in the previous reply, their times were different, and today's times are different, applying today's norm and laws to people who have lived thousands of years before is ridiculous because by nature us humans have evolved and improved! Muhammed (PBUH) never committed any sin intentionally or any act of disobedience towards Allah if I am not mistaken :)

If you are still interested in the matter, I believe there are many many studies, you can look up about this! as this is even a controversial topic among Muslims as well! Overall, this isn't the topic of my blog, this was just to educate people on here on some basics! it is 2025 and we're all human and all different, that is all!

by Em🌸; ; Report

Usually religions believe morality to be eternal and unchanging, maybe Islam is different, idk. If Muhammed was sinless then he wouldn't of disobeyed Allah's law at all. If child marriage was not a disobedience of Allah's will and morality is unchanging wouldn't that make child marriage acceptable today?

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Like I said this isn't what my blog is about! in my country the age of consent in my country is 21. Not sure about anywhere else but I suggest you look up on hadiths and sheikhs youtube videos on this matter, if you are interested :)! I'm still learning, not a sheikh <3

by Em🌸; ; Report

I know your blog wasn't specifically about this, it was about clearing up misinformation surrounding Islam, I was just curious, because I haven't really seen any good responses as to why Muhammad married a 6 year old

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Like I said, the social norms back then were different than now, their culture was different than today's culture just like many of our ancestors who were married very young! I believe I have read somewhere that Mary was in her early teens when she conceived and gave birth to prophet Isa (PBUH) aka (Jesus).

Like I said a thousand years ago differs from our society today! Back then ages of consent and the normal age of "maturity" were different.

I recommend that you look it up instead of asking around here since most people here are young and still learning :) It is better to take it from well experienced learners and stronger studies, like I said This topic is also debated among Muslims :) here are one of the many studies for you!
https://airislam.net/misconceptions-about-islam-prophet-muhammad-aisha/

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I still dont think the idea that social norms having changed makes sense, because morality isn't something that changes throughout time, its the cultural norms that change, but the morals stay the same, I think if religious people need to accept the morals of the current time, they would have to accept things like homisexual pride, which is contrary to all abrahamic morals. And assuming that Joseph was 90 when he married Mary, Joseph is not supposed to be a moral exemplar in the same way Muhammed is.

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Morality is influenced by culture, society and nature! of course, overtime surly, it would change within the people themselves! Things like homosexuality differs from each religion. Islam means peace, it influences people to have kindness, to forgive and practice inner peace, there are rules to it on how to practice it because that is the definition of being Muslim! because to us we believe this world is a test for the afterlife! I believe (anyone can correct me if I am wrong) that marriage can only happen with the father's blessing and most importantly the woman's consent! and only if the woman has already gone through puberty! There are contracts and even witnesses to the bride and groom's agreement!

Not the point but any who to me it makes sense that morality changes! it does within societies and within individuals! what is "acceptable" now isn't 1000 years ago and vice versa! what is right now is wrong then and same goes to different people you meet today :) again I could be wrong, but this is what I think!

Anyway, like I said the best way to learn is through better studies, stronger sources and again Sheikhs!

by Em🌸; ; Report

When we are ordered to follow Muhammed (PBUH) he didn't mean to BE him, to BE a prophet, no! but to follow his way of Islam, his way of treating our women, family and friends, His way of life as a Muslim! his way of going back to Allah if we have any difficulty in life his way of patience and kindness! To pray our mandatory prayers and our sunnah prayers his way of practicing Islam!

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Then again, I don't think it is stated in the Quran what age she was when they did get married nor have I read a proper Hadith about their age when they got married so I don't believe we know their exact age at the time! and again, in Islam marriage can only happen if the woman allows it and agrees to it!

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Do you think if Muhammed did it now it would be acceptable

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Of course not, he wouldn't do it in the first place because laws are now different? laws are different then and laws are different now!

by Em🌸; ; Report

Age of consent is different now in many countries than it was then, I truly fail to understand your confusion, I believe my explanations were clear but if not for you, it is alright so like I said it's better to ask someone who is more knowledgeable about the matter to help clear it up for you!

by Em🌸; ; Report

My only confusion is that I don't believe morality to ever change, and so if someone did something 1500 years ago, and that person is supposed to be truly a fully moral person, then it would be the same ethically as if they did it now. If Muhammed was a wholly moral person I think everything he did would be acceptable today, because i don't think Allah's laws ever change (correct me if im wrong).

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Morality does change and we are all proof of that, Allah's "laws" his only words are in the Quran, and it doesn't say anything about "men should marry childeren" women, family and friends are to be respected and handled with care...

marriage is only valid when there is blessing from the father and top priority is the woman, she has the power to say no in the marriage.

We have contracts and witnesses during the Nikkah. There are rights for both the woman and the man during the marriage.
Rights and wrongs change throughout history within cultures and people, but the Quran doesn't because it is the final word of Allah. Separate culture and Religion for a second.

Muhammed (PBUH) was a human during a specific time that is very much, completely different from this time. Ages of maturity and consent have changed throughout time and history multiple times. what they deemed "normal" back then may not be normal today!!

We aren't even sure of their ages of when they were married as it is not written in the Quran.
But yes dear, morality does change and differ from each time, each community, society and individual. Many studies show and we are obviously proof of it!

I genuinely suggest you read the Quran about marriage or about our Prophet's story and better to take it upon yourself to learn, I believe it will clear up your confusion better than I ever could explain <3

by Em🌸; ; Report

The Prophet's marriages were not about physical desire. That is not how our Prophet of mercy (PBUH) was, and the proof is the Quran. It is even Haram to think about him in this way, read the Quran before you assume anything about the Prophet. They were either to save those women, a guide from Allah for him to spread Islam or genuine pure love (again. I am not much educated on this subject, I am still learning but I am telling you what I know for now)

That doesn't mean that men should just go around and marry 9-year-olds, as first of all the father must give blessings and the woman must undertand then accept or deny! children nowadays are not how Aysha (Rathi Allaha 3anha) was at that time as it is said she was the most knowledgeable in the Ummah.

Allah's only and final word is in the Quran and that is what we must follow and learn from! In the Quran it is taught that we must treat our women good, take care of them, respect them and protect them. Muhammed (PBUH) did just that to all his wives and it is what men should follow to the person they love.

Morality changes. The Prophet is our example yes, but WE are not our Prophet (PBUH) we do not get "messages" from him directly (may Allah forgive me for saying) we only follow the Quran, follow his way of Islam and Practice Islam correctly for ourselves to hopefully enter Paradise.

In the end he was our Prophet. The Last Messenger of Allah. We are not him, but we follow his teachings to the rightful path towards Paradise hopefully Allah has written for us all.

Still confused? read the Quran. It is the strongest source and final word of Allah. Read descriptions of the Quran, the explanations of the Quran. The story of Muhammed (PBUH) and Aysha (May Allah's blessings be upon her).

by Em🌸; ; Report

It is better to read the Quran as it has multiple teachings of everything we need to know on how to be Morally better Muslims, if you want to learn about the morality in Islam. Read the Quran.

What Allah merely asks us to do is to be decent people towards everyone, to forgive and have kindness and to seek him when in need of help and to practice Islam.

Read it and try to really understand it word by word and letter by letter as that is how it is supposed to be read, there are many that are translated to many languages and explained and many YouTube channels you can listen to!

I do recommend ones that have the original Quran "Arabic" and translated to English with both Arabic and English explanations! Those tend to be more accurate!

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Thanks, I'll get around to reading the Quran when I can. I disagree with you that morality changes, because morality is rooted in God, an eternal and unchanging being. According to this article Islamic morality does not change (https://islamonline.net/en/characteristics-of-the-islamic-moral-code/#:~:text=Some%20people%20believe%20that%20various,Jamal%20Badawi%20*)
But I think there's still room for interpretation in religious texts. My personal opinion is that if an immoral thing was acceptable in the past, the person who did the immoral thing still did an immoral thing, but they are less culpable for not knowing any better. So many i can not put all the blame on Muhammad, but I still think marrying a 6 year old was immoral then as it is now. Especially when Muhammad slept with her at age 9. He also married eleven women, even though in Islam you're only supposed to marry the maximum of four.

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Sure, no problem. He was the Prophet dear, the last messenger of Allah, there were some things that was only acceptable for him to do at that specific time, to spread Islam. Each of the Prophets were special and unique in their own way of getting to know Islam as it was being revealed to them through Allah himself and different ways of spreading them as Allah had written for them to do so!

Their ages were not shown in the Quran but surely after reading it, when you have the time to, it will clear up most of your doubts :)

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I just really think loyalty should go both ways, I understand everybody has their own belief system but a woman doesn’t deserve to feel second or third or fourth, relationships are more complex then that and it’s sad too see disloyalty being actively entertained in such a beautiful sacred religion, men don’t have any upper hand they shouldn’t be able to do that too somebody they “love”


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This is not disloyalty, men can only marry 4 IF he has the ability to provide for them all plus the childeren. It will always depend on the relationship at the end of the day, it is not just having a wedding and go. There are agreements beforehand, contracts and signatures for consent. Nowadays rarely anyone marries 4 because times are different now!

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