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Men being creepy is becoming normalized.

Before I start this rant, I want to make it clear that I am not a feminist and I do not think that all men are bad. (Tw. rape)


I feel like men being creeps is just becoming normalized. I got a job in construction with some guys who range from being in their early 20's to their late 30's and some of the stuff they do is just weird as fuck, I swear whenever they aren't working or eating lunch they're just texting random girls on their phones and obviously there's nothing wrong with that but dude, these guys have whole ass wives and girlfriends and it just disgusts me so much. Thats not even the worst part, one of the guys starts showing me the girls he's texting like he showing off some Pokémon he fucking collected like dude that's a human being and you're showing me explicit pictures that she sent YOU.


I hate how cheating and being creepy is just normal, even making friends with other guys is hard unless you completely throw your morals out the window and just become a sexist homophobic racist prick. Almost every single guy I meet is always just so fucking out of pocket like if it's not a joke about being gay it's about being sexist. Then the way they talk about girls they find attractive or make jokes about rape just genuinely disgusts me, and I hate when I become friends with someone for a couple months and they seem pretty chill or at least not as weird as a bunch of the people I meet then BOOM, a group chat leak or a rape accusation comes out about them.


I feel like our standards for basic human decency is just becoming so low, showing basic respect towards people comes off as flirty. I don't get how people are afraid of talking to woman just because they're of the opposite gender, I remember after I had finally been put back into a public school after being homeschooled for 6 years I was just as afraid of talking to woman as I was of talking to men so I would just talk to girls the same way I would talk to any of my guy friends and almost every single time they would think I had a crush on them or was flirting with them just because I wasn't being a creepy asshole. 


The biggest thing I can't stand is how I as a 16-year-old boy is expected to just go along with all of it. Like yes, I'm supposed to embrace being creepy and flirty towards woman and if they feel uncomfortable it doesn't matter, I can just go creep out another girl until maybe one decides to flirt back with me, or I should be fine with making jokes about cheating on my girlfriend, or I should be fine with throwing my morals out the window just to be friends with guys my age. 


I feel like most guys won't understand the severity of what they do until they finally meet someone with trauma or bad experiences with other men. I know that before I met my friends and my ex-girlfriend, I also made some dumbass jokes or said some morally incorrect things in the past but even then, I still had some kind of line I would never cross. It just seems like everyone just doesn't have any limit to what they do or say at all anymore. 


I conclusion, I don't want to paint every single guy as a creepy weirdo because I do know 2 or 3 guys in my life that aren't weird and actually have morals and respect for other people regardless of their gender, but the number of guys that I have to be around that are creepy weirdos is becoming concerningly high and I just really hate how I'm expected to just be okay with the way everyone is. 


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Shrubster

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eh, based on this post you probably are a feminist. As in, you think men and women deserve equal treatment and respect, which is by no means a bad thing. I think most people are based on that definition (myself included)

I can relate though. Some of the guys I know are exactly what you described, and for some reason they make it seem that you're some simp doormat when you say "hey I don't think it's cool to call her a b**** w****".

And you're valid for being peeved off at everyone thinking you like someone just because you're...nice to them and respect them as a person? The same way you should treat everyone?


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UrSven

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I'm sorry for you. But the circle you're in (construction) is all the stereotypes you've already mentioned here. I recommend you find other social circles, if you can.


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yeah hate to say it but that's kinda par for course with construction/tradesmen types from what I hear. Though I do know a fair share of guys who treat women like pokemon like the OP said.

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