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Ok OK, I know this is a crazy heavy topic considering most of my posts are literally me wanting to fuck a fictional computer... But this is actually super important to me so I'm gonna talk about it!! [typing quirk off btw bc of how serious this is]
[Crazy trigger warning for obvious reasons]
Just because your religion tells you what you are doing is right, doesn't mean that you are in the right. Crazy but no religion or belief has actually ever been confirmed!! So why is it that because someone is dressing a certain way that apparently gives a hoard of people the go ahead to harass that person? It makes no sense!!
I'm using Christianity as my main example for this because I was raised in a cult who's beliefs stemmed from Christianity so just bare with me for a second.
Why is it that so many Christians will shame victims of rape, abuse, ect even though the Bible is meant to teach you not to do that?? Didn't Jesus say love thy neighbor? Why is it that people think Jesus would want his "followers" to attack random people who were victims of rape, pedophilia, sexual harassment, or general abuse??? And not only that but people will also go after queer people because "oh! Being gay is a sin!!!" THE ORIGINAL BIBLE NEVER SAID SHIT ABOUT GAY PEOPLE.
The line was originally about pedophilia, about how a man shouldn't sleep with a boy, not about man with another grown man. It was a translation error that we're still paying for!!
And pedophilia is scarily common in the Christian community, with pastors and priests being outed as creeps on the regular so I'm not even surprised that they don't want to use the original meaning.
Another thing is sex in general. If you are having safe, sane, and consensual sex within your own room... I don't think it should matter!! Getting kinky is ok!! Having sex with more than one person at a time is ok!! Being queer and having gay sex is ok!!! But because it's not just a man and a woman with the man on top, that suddenly means that the world is going to explode according to most Christians!! It's so fucking stupid! Who cares if someone wants to be tied up by their partner, as long as is consensual sex it really shouldn't matter.
Purity culture and religion is also fucking insane. Oh! Most girls hit puberty at around 10 in my area but we weren't allowed to learn about things like pubic hair, safe sex, consent, periods, growing pains, being aroused by things, or anything else because talking about puberty means you'll probably need to learn about sex. I knew what sex was when I was 8!! We have the internet people!!! In fact, that lack of sexual education in religious groups has caused suicides to happen!! I've seen multiple cases of 12 year old girls killing themselves because they though their periods were actually the losses of virginity and they thought they deserved death!! One of those cases happened at my old church by the way so you literally can't even say that I'm exaggerating.
Sexual education is very VERY important, I don't care if you think that not talking about sex and how puberty works is inappropriate, this stuff is able to ruin a person's life!!
Feel free to rant about this stuff in the comments by the way. I have plenty more I could say but I won't since I don't need to get banned. I just needed to get this out.
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Jay
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napoleonsFire
True.
jade :3
as a christian myself, you're absolutely right. those religious people you made contact with believe in absolute bullshit that i wont even elaborate... this makes me feel pity for them for being so ignorant to a point i still cant believe it does happen 7n7
Forgotten_Lemon
Hey, I'm a convert to Christianity from atheism so hopefully I can shed a bit of light on this
Specifically I'm Eastern Orthodox (we had a big divorce with the Catholics about 1000 years ago, we're very similar to them except we don't have the Pope or the massive pedophilia problem, it still happens but at a much lower rate and those priests found to be creeps are punished and excommunicated, unlike the Vatican who protects them and pays victims to shut up) and began my process of conversion about 3 years ago, if you have any questions about specifically that I'm more than happy to answer.
In contemporary culture especially, most people calling themselves "Christian" do not deserve that label for a number of reasons, the first is they're mostly Protestants and evangelicals, they have no connection to historic traditional Christianity and so barely even qualify, and secondly they hold their own interpretation of teachings and scripture over what it actually means.
I'm not gonna get into anything regarding whether or not the original texts condemned homosexuality cuz that's a whole other can of worms BUT EVEN IF IT DID that DOES NOT give people an excuse to harass and abuse those considered to be sinful. LITERALLY EVERYONE sins, that's like the whole message of Christianity is that nobody is perfect but we should strive to do better and follow Christ's example.
Modern day American "Christians" just take the label because they like how it sounds (usually cuz they grew up with it) and use it as an excuse to be shitty people under the guise of piety/devotion, they are literally cosplaying my faith and I do not claim them as belonging to it, nor should any devout follower with half a brain. This is especially true of so called "megachurch" pastors like Kenneth Copeland and Joel Osteen, as well as "hate preachers" like Steven Anderson
I think purity culture can have a place but NOT in the way it's currently practiced, sexual purity is a Christian virtue, but it also isn't the end of the world if someone isn't "pure" and feels bad/repents of their misdeeds (not talking about SA cuz that's entirely out of someone's control, I mean like stuff where both people consented but weren't married). Several Christian Saints are former prostitutes, murderers, theives, etc. Because again the entire point of Christianity is becoming a new person in Christ, not allowing your past to define you. People seem to forget that virginity isn't an actual biological/physical state you can be in and is a purely social construct
I promise you the majority of us are not like this, there's about 2 billion Christians worldwide, only about 30% of which are Protestant, and an even smaller percentage of those Protestants are Evangelicals, and an even smaller portion of them act this way. The issue is this minority is INCREDIBLY loud and are almost all concentrated in the United States instead of spread throughout the world like most other Christian branches/denominations.
Please do not allow this to taint your view of Christianity, and if it does, at least please don't come to view all of us in this way, most of us are just people doing our best to love God and those around us.
//> don't worry, this wasn't supposed to be a hate speech on Christians- I have plenty of family and friends who are Christian. It's more of just a rant on how people use religion as an excuse to hate others_
by FizzyBlood [SCP SelfShipper of SpaceHey]; ; Report
Thats why i'm sedevacantist,Vatican II and its consequences have been a real disaster for the catholic church
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as a prebytherian myself, you couldn't be more accurate lol
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pocono
with the christianity part, it's mostly people taking shit from the old testament and reverting it to fit their own beliefs (and correct me if Im wrong, im actually not christian, i just like learning how others think) even though jesus changed the laws to be more accepting of people and being anti-hate in general. and most fundamentalist 'christians' can be guilty of doing this. the bible never said being apart of the lgbtq was a sin like was stated here.
Hell, in matthew 19:12 he was trying to get people to be more chill with eunuchs (biological males that dont have testicles, in some cultures these are seen as Hijra's like in South Asia). The eunuchs were delt with discrimination and shit (deut 23:1). St. Phillp also baptised and ethiopian eunich with no caveats and shit.
i would go into more but again im not christian, im just trying to look at things how they are. ty for making this post btw, im just trying to explain more for us that dont really know christianity.
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Yeah for real like at my school they only start explaining sex to 13-14 year olds and no one was even taking it seriously. I think the people who took their time and came to our school to talk about it were really cool but i didn't like the fact that the boys from my year kept making rape jokes, sexist jokes and being homophobic the whole presentation and i don't think any of them even learned anything at all. The people who were able to listen over their giggles and comments about wanting to touch girls and not caring about consent probably know about it but not everyone does and i feel like that's not gonna end well for them in rhe future :/
cola
I dont know why, I appreciate your post. For some reason it made something click in my brain to be free finally. I didnt grow up with christianity but in a culture where showing anything below your collar bone is seen as "vulgar" and "whoreish" it made me feel insecure and ugly when it tried to dress up. And dont get me strarted on what that did to my brain regarding sex in general. Idk if its cause Im autistic but I cant understand how any of it works. When people are interested to do that with me I want to engage but I dont understand it...it'll happen and all my thoughts are , are whether that person enjoyed it , if I did something wrong, or was too weird.
Tir3d.P4p3r
Sex ed is all cool and all, untill they do it and they talk about consent for like a few seconds. This happend at my school.
They talked for the whole school, talking about condoms and other contraceptives, about what precum is and how a girl can get pregnant from that too, about the menstrual cycle bla bla bla. And then they said something about consent like a few seconds as the course ended and everyone was already leaving and you couldnt even hear anything anymore.
Like tf? There should have been a whole section dedicated for it bcs people dont even know anything about it. Like thanks now i know how to not get pregnant but i dont know if a sexual encounter is consensual or not
★ Kuro ★
Hey alt christian catholic here! I'm hearing what you're saying, and you're writing very valid things and questions about the topic! I'll give my opinion on the takes about every point you made, respectfully of course ^^
I will say firstly, that the christians that spread hate of any kind did NOT understood the kind of love Jesus was talking about. When you have some kind of prejudice of any kind you (christian) need to remember that God doesn't see any group/kind of people being better than the other and also, prejudice it IS a sin too. The lack of love can corrupt you into doing so many harm to others, and before praying for someone you think it's in the wrong path, pray for yourself and your own sins, cause you probably have alot too.
That being said let's continue!
About the kinky stuff, many straight people will say gay couples are going to hell because they corrupt this sacred moment and by other hand be doing the most crazy things in bed.. Personally i think neither are correct at some level, if something corrupts your soul i don't it's going to be good for you as a person, we can see many mental problems related with excess of fetishes and stuff, and i doesn't matter what typa of couple is it, but if i said that i do the deed with all the purity in the world i would be the most hypocritical person alive, so, we know the goal, but Jesus does talk about how we are so corruptive, and we need to take care and dive in the carnal desires even tho feels good, because it doesnt brings virtue to us in any kind, only distance us from him!
The purity culture was very distorted, and that is being distorted by men, not by God. Many predators KNOW if the children are not being taught consense and wich area of their bodies is wrong touching, it's going to get so much easier for them. So other people, alienated by predators pretending to be priests or other autorities just do what they say. At the other hand there is alot of good priests fighting to end that, and saying on churches you NEED to listen to your children and NEED to teach them about all the important stuff.
They distorted so much things about purity, that people are accusing victims, of being dirty and telling them they're going to hell. When in the bible in GENESIS 34 say about how the brothers of Dina killed all men that raped her to maintain her honor.
Last i would like to say about clothes and the way you present yourself, it's more about you caring about your own temple (body) and dont revealing to others, because you are special, your body is special, it is not something with no value for you to just show to other people in that way.. I'm not talking about wearing a hijab, niqab or anything like that, i don't think there is nothing wrong about wearing the clothes you want too, but me personally, i don't really like seeing other persons bodyparts and make me feel unconfortable, but i'm talking about the extreme, like microshorts or really low cut shirt. But I think it's absurd for anyone to think that this is an "invitation" or even lusting over another stranges body. That is, again, just a predator kinda-of-speech trying to make the victim, the problem.
It's a whole essay oof and i wanted to say more things but i don't think everyone is going to read all that soooooo.. thats it, feel free to add me if you want to talk more about the bible or this kind of stuff that bothers you ^^
MarYo
Disclaimer, I am not affiliated with any religion.
I am of course not talking for everybody, but a lot, and I mean a lot of people (at least from my personal experience) didn't actually read the holy book of their religion and thus only prophesizes the rules that they have heard from other people in their religion, that might have not also not read the book, or maybe, it's their parents who indoctrinated certain beliefs that stem from the beliefs and the culture of the older generations.
An example would be Christianity and anti lgbtq... To my knowledge, nowhere in the new testament was homosexuality specifically banned, people just said it is a sin because they needed to find a way to quickly suppress it as it was seen as out of ordinary and weird so they labeled it as such.
I can't say anything about polyamory though as I have a strong bias against it.
✶Rib𓆩𓁺𓆪Eye Black Dragon✶
Huh, and I just read a blog post that's the opposite of this (but seriously, don't list your sexuality or your kink in your bio, it attracts predators).
Sadly, pederasty is very common in any community when kids and adults interact (happens in SpaceHey too) and more prominent with cult-like personalities or authoritative figure - schools have reported to have teachers like this (SEVERELY underreported even).
But, that's probably I came from a very different "religious" background, so I don't have a mare on this race. Purity culture sounds very cringe regardless
I got a 502 before I could add a follow-up.
Why I drew comparison from the vaguely mentioned blog and purity culture, is, from what I've understand with religious groups and "purity" is to maintain order and set guidelines. Setting guidelines and moderation is atmost important within a community, without these guidelines in any given group would be chaotic. I think that was the "purity culture" that's happening within the Christian and Christian-like sect. Except. Y'know. They're too controlling and thus cringe. Telling you what I'm making sense of them. Girls or boys acting a certain way, dress in a certain way, respecting authoritative figures in a certain way... Is to maintain order even though they REALLY are misguided.
That said... the bottom line I'm going here for is not taking the word of adults and any authoritative figure unquestionably, sexual freedom and whatever. Stay vigilant. Know your boundaries. (but seriously, do not broadcast kinky shit within spaces where adults and children interact especially if you're a minor).
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Dexter
this is soo true I grew up in a christian community and the conversations around sex were always so bad. I hated myself so much for what was literally natural puberty because thats what my community told me and it sucked. It doesn't make spaces safer for kids, it does the opposite -- Kids need places they can go to ask questions about this kind of stuff without religion and purity culture getting in the way.
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i wonder if theres any restrictions on boys for purity culture, or is it just girls lel
//> there are a few. Restrictions around sex before marriage masturbation are present for both guys and girls. I know this isn't purity but masculine stereotypes and gender roles get pushed really hard on guys really early on. _
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BrownZombie
its so weird when there is so much violence in tv and movies. that's ok but not some dudes kissing maybe??? its so weird people are so prude about the weirdest shit. im not even like yeah make everything horny bc i do belive some things also take it too far in that direction, but its not gonna make me uncomfortable.
PolarisPolanski
People on twitter a month or two ago were going crazy because they couldn't handle the fact that some people like BDSM. They linked it back to misogyny and control, which is probably a link BUT in general if it's between two adults who both enjoy it then why even get cranky about it? They were acting like it's the end of the world or something.
"BTW, if you like or are passive about BDSM then you are inherently supporting misogyny! Hope this helps!"
SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I understand them to some degree. I cant sit back and act like the reason a lot of women are into submissive roles is because of misogyny. I mean lets be honest, a large ammount of people learn about sex from porn, which is extremly unrealistic. And watching that shit too much can actually condition you to like the stuff you see in there (take for example the large ammount of non BDSM couples that started doing chocking just bcs they heard abt it online). And in society too, women are especially expected to be sumissive and that includes the bedroom activities too. I understand their concern.
But at the same time, some people act like women can NEVER like sex, and thats a misoginistic belief too, even tho they dont realize it. For them, a woman being submissive is the worst thing that a woman can do in the bedroom, bcs for centuries, women were forced to be submissive their whole lives. I thought like that too for a while, but then i realized wait a fucking minute, being submissive is not dangerous or degrating AT ALL, if you do it with a dom you trust and respects you.
There are 2 sides to this coin. It can be bad, and it can be good. I think the best thing to do is to try to understand the both sides of the argument, even if one of them sounds wrong to you. Sexuality is too complicated to be all bad or all good
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l1MF
OMG, my time has come, I really resonate with all of the above.
For context: I was very involved in christianity since childhood and literally grew up with stereotypically christian attitudes until I had crush on my female friend when I was 9 (I am a girl),that practically divided my childhood into before and after. I won't go into details, but I hated myself terribly for this, thought that I am disgusting, sinful, would burn in hell, etc. As a result, I gave up religion with thought "if God hates me for who I am, I don't need God then."
It makes me really sad to realize that thing who supposed to be a spiritual and safe space where people seek solace can promote such destructive shit :(
Lmao this reminds me of a sad but a bit funny story. I was on watpat looking trough lesbian romance stories and i stumbled across a girl talking about how she was thinking about other girls and called herself discusting bcs liking girls is "haram".
Caught me off guard when i saw it but goddamn, poor girl didnt do anything wrong and hated herself bcs of a religion
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porcelqin 𓆩♡𓆪
I believe that everyone has the right to be apart of any religion they feel most comfortable in as long as they're not forcing it onto others and hurting people , however I think a big problem is when people use their religion in serious discussions about politics and human rights. I see this a lot with misguided Christians who will use religion as an excuse for being against abortion and homosexuality and will attack people who partake in these things and it's so disgusting to me. A lot of religious people will use their religion to justify being a disgusting and horrible person who hurts the people around them, like no Jesus wouldn't want you to bully an atheistic teenager for being queer, wtf.
I'm so sorry about your experience btw, being raised in a cult is crazy.
Finley_Is_Here_Xd
Purity culture really fucks with the brain too
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And as a kid who's well, curious when adults try to shoo me away from sexual topics i just keep going back to it
Even using Wikipedia pages for bdsm as a form of sex ed (which was stupid
//> nahhh dw, I got most of my early sex ed from a fnaf one shots book on wattpad so you're probably better off than I am_
by FizzyBlood [SCP SelfShipper of SpaceHey]; ; Report
What’s with it with wattpad smuts and sex ed
my condolences broski
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Chito
Gosh I wish I could add more than two kudo's.
Same!!!
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Painter!!!!
A lot of the problems with Christianity nowadays come from the fact nobody really believes in the stuff the bible talks about, no, they just want control, and being religious will give them more control over this society because it's seen as a normal and good thinv