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Cause it's faster and easier to solve your problems by killing someone such as that 1 lady who is always rude, cuts in line and is overall an asshole or your boss (if you hate them that is). Instead of trying to explain that it's wrong, why not just kill? I mean they probably wouldn't even listen to you. What's so bad about killing anyways, can't it be justified under certain circumstances? There are SOME people in jail that are worse than trash, nobody would miss them if they're gone...
My point is: So much time and energy could be saved by killing and the thought never leaves me.
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samakmak_☆
I've had this thought before and honestly I was convinced that was the ultimate solution but in reality it won't really help anything.
(Just wanna say that i do agree that people who commited heinous unforgivable crimes are okay to kill, only if their crime was like the worst thing a human could do)
I'm pretty sure stuff like this already happens in urban villages that are isolated from the rest of us and guess what happens? It doesn't help, it starts smth like a mini war between the two tribes and they just kill each other and no benefit is gained in the end. Something I also want to point out is that what separates us from the animal kingdom is that we have a conscious mind. It's about right and wrong and about common sense and thought. If I kill that rude lady would it help anyone? We know that all the actions we make will lead to a chain of events and a butterfly effect that could be disastrous. If you don't value your own life then that doesn't make it invaluable, and just because you don't value the rude lady's life doesn't mean so either, because that rude lady had her intire life ahead of her, with hopes and dreams and people that care about her, and all that was thrown down the drain just because you thought she should be killed for being an inconvenience to you. As a human, you have to remember that you don't live alone, and that life doesn't recolve around you, and there's so much going on in our universe that killing the lady for being rude, in the end, won't help anyone or anything. If you stood before God and he asked you why you killed one of his creations, would you say I didn't think she should live? That's not yours to decide. And if you're not religious then you have to have basic morals, because again, our consciousness and our human minds separate us from being wild animals that just eat each other.
(sorry this all over the place but I hope you get my point)
Sure it doesn't help anyone, but if I don't do anything then it feels like the same annoying cycle of events will happen over and over again. And that just seems worse.
As a philosopher once said: "Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man"
by Haytaaslan959; ; Report
True, but I think you shouldn't hope to change anything, but rather learn to live with it. If we're talking about minor inconveniences, then even killing everyone that causes it won't help, because then we're talking about wiping out half the population. And remember, someone could be thinking the same about you, and they could cosider you this rude person that needs to be killed to make the world a better place. So I feel like if we tested this theory of killing everyone that annoys you, you'll end up feeling worse, because no matter how many people you kill, this rude lady and this annoying boss always exist. Instead of a cycle of going through inconveniences and bad experiences, it'll turn into a bloody cycle of murder that no matter how much you do, it's always the same.
I think it's more about accepting these inconveniences because it's just part of life. Yeah, we're going to suffer, we're going to be put through pain, but that's how life is, because if life was all happy and jolly it wouldn't feel like it, because in the absence of bad things good things are no longer "good", just how if darkness didn't exist light wouldn't be light, it'd just be, yk?
I get your pain and frustration, but I'm almost sure if killing wasn't a bad thing, and you went ahead, you'll still feel the same, only now you'll have blood on your hands. So we should turn inwards, and instead of thinking "I need to rid the world of these people" , we should think "I need to learn to accept things as they are", bc no matter what universe you're in, trust me, there's always that person cutting in line. And the illusion of a perfect world isn't real, bc nothing is perfect. Try to not let things get to you so easily, you'll start losing hair (trust me, I all about that lol)
So what if that person cuts the line? So what if the boss is rude? So what if that lady keeps sticking her nose in your business? Once you learn how to cancel these things from your life, you'll feel liberated.
(Ofc this is all easier said than done, and I'm honestly struggling with the same thing, but bit by bit we'll get through it)
by samakmak_☆; ; Report
honestly, thats some great insight.I didn't think of just accepting it before.
I m probably gonna think about this for like the next couple of months now. Really appreciate the comment btw
by Haytaaslan959; ; Report
<33 I'm glad we had this convo, it was great :3
by samakmak_☆; ; Report
ky
think about it this way. we all do annoying and bad things. do we deserve to die because we cut in a line or interrupt a conversation? no. even if it’s something a little bigger, it’s not something to kill over.
killing isn’t a shortcut—it’s just chaos. fear would replace cooperation and basically half of all interactions are just a life or death situation.
assuming you say this as for it to be normalized or accepted, you have to know that moral standings cannot depend on personal feelings. annoyance is subjective. what you may THINK is annoying may be something to shrug off by someone else.
let’s say you do kill that rude lady. what happens then? what if she had a spouse? children? her parents cry every night thinking about it. all they can feel is a burning hatred for you, and all that you’ve created is severe vendettas set on your bloodline for the next seven generations.
what you say is ‘easier’ isn’t true. killing someone technically is an easy task, but it doesn’t make it good in any way. you do not simply end a human life, but what it was and may grow to be. killing on a whim like that just shows little impulse.
not sugarcoating this, but you made a genuinely terrible claim. I don’t know if you wanted it to be debatable or something, because it’s socially and morally wrong.
Bro I don't have morals except seeing kindness as something you would do if it doesn't cost you much to create some kind of bond cause I mean nobody would go out of their way to drive someone they dont know 10km back and forth without any kind of compensation and out of their own will.
And I m plenty ready to die as these days I feel like even living isn't worth it and troublesome.
Also if everybody started killing each other like you said, then yes you are right, it would be chaos but I m not saying that killing should be legal. I m asking why I shouldn't kill someone if I don't even value my own life. Infact this type of lose-lose situation would be much better to me since I know they value their life more than I value my own. And I consider that a (not so absolute) win
by Haytaaslan959; ; Report
what you make of your claim now is entirely different compared to your previous statement.
if you didn’t have morals except a basis for said kindness, you wouldn’t even need to have a reason to whether or not you’d kill someone. so just as a plain fact, that’s wrong.
to answer your new question, “why should I not kill someone if I don’t value my own life”, you shouldn’t kill peoples because it’s fucking wrong. plain and simple
by ky; ; Report
Dio
...Is it easier to kill though? Most of the time, even the shittiest person you've met has someone that loves them. If you kill that shithead, now you'll become the shithead in the eyes of the people that loved the person that you killed.
You'll create a chain of reaction that will cause chaos to this world.
Besides, who's gonna decide on the line between who's ok to be killed and who's not? Is that line decided by you?
We all have different perception of what's "good" and what's "bad". YOUR version of what's "good" and "bad" is not the "correct" version. It's YOUR version. So give me a reason as to why we should agree specifically with you on this?
This self-centered way of thinking will get you in the "ok to kill" zone in the eyes of some people.
But that doesn't mean that you deserve to be killed, right? You just had your own opinion on making the world a better place (or at least, a better place for you). This is why killing is "bad". It doesn't make sense to do it in a world where we all live together despite our differences.
It is such an interesting topic. I would love to hear your thoughts on which parts you agreed/disagreed with.
if I got killed then it would be a free passport to afterlife and if theres none then it didn't matter in the first place. I am well aware of how subjective right and wrong can get, its that I dont care at this point even if it doesn't make sense.
heck WE dont make sense.We know that we will die someday and still live on sinning without much fear of the afterlife and if you're an atheist it makes much less sense since it wont matter AT ALL.Yet we continue to live on, wanting to last last just a little more.Just a little bit more.
if I dont make sense then my actions dont have to make sense either
Also thank you for your input it helps me see new perspectives (Really I mean it)
by Haytaaslan959; ; Report
I like your insight, thx for sharing them. This was such a nice interaction XD
by Dio; ; Report