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when i say paraphiliacs i mean people with PARAPHILIA DISORDER thanks! just had 2 shorten it cuz im tired asf
Lets start off with a quote from Lolita by Nabokov. Page 88.
Our main character, a "nymphet, girl child" loving grown man says:
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the majority of sex offenders that hanker for some throbbing, sweet-moaning, physical but not necessarily coital, relation with a girl-child, are innocuous, inadequate, passive, timid strangers who merely ask the community to allow them to pursue their practically harmless, so-called aberrant behavior, their little hot wet private acts of sexual deviation without the police and society cracking down upon them. We are not sex fiends! We do not rape as good soldiers do. We are unhappy, mild, dog-eyed gentlemen, sufficiently well integrated to control our urge in the presence of adults, but ready to give years and years of life for one chance to touch a nymphet.
What does he say here? (Modern translation by me)
Most of sex offenders who strongly desire to have sex with children are just harmless people, not violent ones. We dont rape or assault children, we can control our actions. We are civilized "gentlemen." All we want is to innocently touch them.. we can control ourselves for years to do so."
Our OP here says this about pedophilia/paraphilia :
"A paraphilic disorder is an uncontrollable urge to act on it, it occupies the person's mind, often causing distress and/or some form of being unable to function properly."
- My response - If it's an uncontrollable urge to act on it, then why is this even a point of contention?.. but anyway
More from OP:
"here's why I don't believe every pedophile, zoophile, necrophiliac, etc., deserves to die: because there's a key word "every". Not all, never all.
Who deserves to die then? The ones that act on it (obviously), I'm not in support of touching kids/animals/anyone and anything that can't consent and/or is harmful to anyone involved.
Now, I have to say that I'm necrophiliac, so I can't say I'm 100% objective, but I did try my best to write it from a third party standpoint."
- My Response -
"Heres my best to write from a third party standpoint"
You can't. your a necrophiliac so you literally can't. you defend and support this community of paraphilia because youre a part of it. Obviously something has warped your mind into believing that people of a third party standpoint would agree with you.
This is like a rapist trying to write from a third party standpoint of why rape is wrong. They understand it. they dont care. thats why rapists, pedophiles, whateverfphiles are all hated by normal people. because they simply dont care about their actions or their thoughts and harm people despite whatever promising life they would've had if they werent victims.
"Oh well you're preventing people from getting help because you're causing more stigma!!! Mental Health doesn't matter when it comes to EVERYBODY huh!!!"
Nobody is fucking saying that. you're literally in your own head feeding yourself lies. Nobody is saying don't get help. The vast majority of the world is obviously going to think "yes pedophiles are disgusting. that is disgusting and whoever rapes a child should die." A good therapist/shrink won't bat an eye at your condition/disorder. if you genuinely think that much of other people's opinions on your illness and crying about it online more then you do trying to GET HELP AND HELP OTHER PEOPLE GET HELP BY RECCOMENDING RESOURCES AND WEBSITES, you're pathetic and should die. youre not even trying to help people with paraphilia, rather painting them as poor sad victims that should be accepted with lines out the door of people waiting to hug and comfort them. NO. people with DEPRESSION still face stigma today. people with cluster b personality disorders, people with ANY mental disorder/illnesses face stigma due to the crazy news headlines of "crazy depressed guy who was drunk and had schizophrenia murders and defecates on 7 women at bar". by enclosing it to just pedophiles, zoophiles, otherphiles, is just creating more stigma as youre literally just making other mentally ill people look bad who OFTEN SAY "STOP PREVENTING PEOPLE FROM GETTING HELP JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE SCHIZOPHRENIA, DEPRESSION, BPD, XYZ". for some fucking reason op twisted the Mental Health matters phrase thats used for completely fucking treatable conditions like bpd and depression for the purpose of defending disgusting people. thanks!
if you search up on fucking google "therapy for paraphilia" or whatever searches like "how to control paraphilia" i think you'll find a lot of fucking resources for help. the problem is when people LIKE THIS WEIRDO come on the digital internet and try to find safe spaces and internet enclaves of pedophile supporters or something and try to act like a victim and tell people how much the world hates them and how much stigma there is around getting help.
IF YOURE COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW LITTLE HELP THERE IS TRY FINDING IT FOR YOURSELF INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING ONLINE. MAYBE THAT TIME YOU SPENT WRITING A BLOG ABOUT HOW PEDOPHILES CAN SOMEHOW BE JUSTIFIED COULD BE BETTER SPENT LOOKING FOR HELP. MAYBE TRY BEING THE CHANGE YOU WANT TO SEE RATHER THEN SITTING ON SPACEHEY HOPING PEOPLE WILL FLOCK TO YOU AND AGREE WITH YOU AND GIVE YOU ATTENTION!!!
"Thinking about it ≠ acting on it, they can't control what pops up in their heads, but they can control their actions."
Like i fucking said. Lolita. "Well no we dont act anything out we just.. fantasize."
so rape fantasies are okay? what is "acting on it"? watching rape and child porn? is that acting on it? is thinking about a kid while jerking off acting on it? what about looking at kids sexually? what counts as fucking acting on it. because i think whoever jerks off to cp or distributes it should die.
by not even specifying what "acting on your desires" is, you literally do a greater disservice to whatever fucking paraphilia/necrophilia community youre in. im sure theyll thank you. jesus fuck. and you managed to get people to sympathize with your bullshit as well because of how vague you made the definition of "acting on it" is.
"So yeah, y'all be treating any mental disorder about sexuality like it's some form of devilish ritual. It's really not just about paraphilias, it's just about mental illness involving sexually, the moment it enters a conversation it's like empathy goes out of the window, why is that? Or Bipolar Personality Disorder, Narcissist Personality Disorder, anything that affects people's behavior in negative way, no, in a way YOU don't like."
maybe because sex is something that has been constantly used as a tool to devalue not only women but men, children, gay men, minorities, and other oppressed groups. its a sensitive topic for many because its intimate, and the thought of being forced or coerced into it is obviously disgusting for that reason because its supposed to be intimate. btw , we could bring up kanye as a argument here:
"BPD/NPD in a way that affects people in a negative way, No in a way YOU dont like"
So Kanye being an antisemite, racist, homophobe, sexist is okay right then? because it effects me in a way i dont like, but because I may not like it thats creating more stigma around people with BPD right? do you understand the fucking slippery slope this goes down? Of course you dont because youre too busy pandering to weird online fucks for spacehey kudos. I seriously dont understand you uber chronically online people somefucking times. Well if you wanna stick to the subject then, if a paraphiliac happens to tell me about their fantasies about abusing a minor in GENERAL, somebody close to me thats a minor or myself, yes that would not be something that affects me positively and yes thats a fucking "thing that affects people's behavior in a negative way that I dont like". Even if they havent acted out on it, its FUCKING GROSS.
"Help with granting the wishes of getting help actually seeming achievable."
yeah i agree, get off spacehey or the internet and maybe try getting help yourself first, then help others try to go to therapy by posting about genuine mental health resources, hotlines, etc rather then "bringing awareness" or some bullshit by posting on SPACEHEY which isnt the MOST popular social media.
why dont you go print posters in your neighborhood about getting help? protest? make a petition? talk about your experience proudly and GET HELP. literally anything else but posting on a private alt account so a few hundred/thousand people can look at it and disagree with you while wording this stupid ass blog post in a weird and confusing manner trying to garner sympathy for yourself and helping not bring awareness but help FUCKING HOST A PLATFORM FOR DISGUSTING PEOPLE would be so much fucking better.
If you're serious about mental health mattering, don't pick and choose what mental illness you're gonna deem as worthy to get help and what just make people undeserving to live. Simply don't think you know it all, don't think you know all the facts."
"if you dont want all women to die right now and think misogyny is bad, then go support all women regardless of what they say." ahh argument. if I DONT KNOW IT ALL, then you certainly fucking dont. again your view is fucking warped by your own paraphilia anyway that you cant even fathom the fact that people are always gonna dislike you no matter fucking what. instead of being a fucking wallowing blob in some blog posting site why dont oyu PLEASE GO AND GET HELP RATHER THEN SPREADING A DANGEROUS MESSAGE WITH A CLICKBAIT TITLE.
im pretty sure many people on spacehey would agree that any condition that makes you want to harm others or yourself is worthy of help. youre literally on probably the most compassionate website imaginable because theres other mentally ill people on here too that have whole blogs talking about their experiences and how they managed to get help, etc. twitter? different. tiktokt? different story as well. if you genuinely wanna use the mental health matters movement as a way to victimize pedophiles zoophiles and whatever philes rather than actually help people of that nature get help you need to step outside and take a deep breath of fresh air for a while. go on a walk.
Make people with paraphilias comfortable with seeking help before it's too late.
WHY DONT WE STOP MAKING PEDOPHILES AND PARAPHILIES COMFORTABLE ON THE INTERNET TO EXPRESS THEIR LOVE FOR MINORS OR WHATEVER ILLEGAL THING THEY LIKE BEFORE ITS TOO LATE.
0/10 blog post
- badly written
- doesnt consider literally any other perspective except like 2 arguments and their version of how normal people think
- misleading title to get attention
- doesnt even do anything to help people with paraphilia find help
SINCE I DONT WANNA BE A HYPOCRITE HERE ARE SOME GOOD RESOURCES I FOUND IF YOURE STRUGGLING WITH PARAPHILIA OR EVEN HYPERSEXUALITY.
look on forums such as reddit or r/therapy. ask your local mental health groups in the community or try booking a free consultation with therapists or if it gets dire, call 911 and ask for a mental evaluation so they can have people evaluate your mental situation.
https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/291419-treatment?form=fpf
https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/paraphilias-diagnosis-treatment
^^^ INFO ABOUT GETTING HELP AND WHAT YOU MIGHT EXPERIENCE.
GOOD RX - AN ONLINE LOW PHARMACY FOR MEDICATION
COST PLUS DRUGS - A LOW COST PHARMACY FOR MEDS
https://www.thetrevorproject.org/get-help/ - THE TREVOR PROJECT : TALK TO SOMEBODY.
SOME ADVICE FROM OTHER PARAPHILIACS:
- distract yourself, find new hobbies, work, etc
- seperate yourself from the paraphilia. you cant control it and its not your fault. what is your fault is if you act on it. paraphilia is a wound from an accident, but if you ignore it it can bleed and get infected. if you bandage it up and get help, you can recover. there might be a scar still there, but its better then getting a worse infection
- if youre a minor/young adult, it has a chance to go away. during your teenage/young years youre still experimenting and trying to know what you like. you might think later on in your life that its not for you.
- the more you try to suppress it , the more it may harm you. as one reddit user said (lol i hate reddit but whatever)
"Ya can’t [fix it]. I will say that once you learn to accept and can move past your negativity associated with it, you can actually figure out what is going on inside your head/heart. I’m a male little, used to be super into AB/DL but once I stopped resenting it and embraced who I was the desires kinda subsided and now there is no sexual aspect for me and is more of a sense of comfort and safety. It hasn’t gone away but has “evolved” I suppose so it’s not demanding my attention and thoughts every day.
So from my experience the more you fight it the more desirable it becomes, just like if you try to ignore anger, sadness or any other emotion you try to avoid."
https://www.mapresources.info/ - for those who are "MAPS" i hate that fucking term but whatever
https://www.b4uact.org/ - before you act, preventive info and how to seek help
TLDR: instead of crying on spacehey SEEEEK help. thanks!!
🙏BLESS🙏
- CUPID
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freerunner
necrophilia isn't that bad tbh as long as the person consents before they die, Richard Stallman
Virus
The original post left me feeling disgusted and sickened . Thank u for being real
Baccara
i know that sounds crazy but a paraphiliac is better off d3ad than walking around looking for help that probably won't come or that probably won't make things any better; and also i may be bullshiting but those who are like this and do their shit are not punished at all nowadays, most people dont give a sh1t of what they're doing, i know that sounds pessimist but bro.....they're inside of families, at the government, at streets, so like, of course there are voices and people speaking out about their abusers but at the other side mostly of them are getting away with it...
this person who whote that mf entry "let not k1ll yada yada yada" probably havent seen enough or is just closing their eyes
nah cuz u have a point. theyre literally a walking threat..its literally an uncontrollable desire for well, illegal or weird shit. if its uncontrollable why even bother
by cupid ♡; ; Report
♡ Meena ♡
honestly my whole opinion on this entire thing is pedophiles can't control what they like, but they still shouldn't indulge in those fantasies too much. i can tell you, there are so many people with weird and concerning kinks out there, and nobody thinks of them all the time. it's not this horrible thing that'll follow you forever. as long as they resist the urge to do anything non-consensual and coital with children then i don't think they should be locked up. nobody is proud of liking children (if you are you must be some kind of psychopath which is a completely different thing altogether), so most pedophiles don't mention it publicly in shame. in paraphilia, honestly, as long as everybody knows all of what they're doing + consent on all parties then i don't think there's any way to interfere. that being said, the entire etymology of paraphilia is that this obsession is ABNORMAL. i therefore believe that we shouldn't be normalizing it: ik this might be a hot take, but it is a mental condition in its own way. and i totally agree with you, spacehey is a safe space, and we shouldn't be talking about such topics on a place where literal teenagers interact on. talking about this in mature forums is a completely different concept, and even then, talking to people who have degrees in psychology/clinical psychology/psychiatry know what to think about these things. they are third parties, and can help you feel better about feeling this way.
moreover, my opinon the sexual stigma thing, i personally think sex is something that should be normalized among ADULTS (adults guys. definitely don't bring up your sideways shuffle business with minors against their will) bc i'm supersuperduper against slut-shaming and the idea of LIKING sexual activities as something disgusting or gross. after all, humans have biologically evolved to like sex. however, sex is something that should ALWAYS be consensual. i will never disagree on that point. i definitely don't feel iffy about those things bc it's related to sex, but bc a lot of those paraphilias involve non-consensual things that can seriously hurt the people involved (ESPECIALLY pedophilia and zoopholia: most kids not only are unaware of what sex is, but it seriously damages their bodies so even in the absolutely ridiculous and outlandish scenario where they 'consent,' they are still growing so it is in their best interest, that, as a responsible person with any fucking morals, you still shouldn't agree. and obviously, animals can't consent). this is why i honestly don't fucking care if you're into role-playing: i don't fucking care if it's related to sex, bc you're not doing anything that could ever hurt or damage the people involved, and it can be consensual. the stigma around paraphilia is the fact that it's not consensual.
also what irritates me most about this blog post is that it just comes out with this stupid title, and doesn't even have a trigger warning (bro you're on a website with ppl who have mental disorders too. have the self-respect to put trigger warnings if they're doing it too (obviously???). like you realize some people are sensitive to this? you know, the entire reason THIS DUMBFUCK BLOG POST WAS MADE??
anyway, that was my take on this. you made amazing points, and i'm glad there are actually sane people on the internet these days in the face of all the victimization on social media sites.
yeah i agree. i myself was friends with somebody who has paraphilliac disorder (had thoughts about csa, sa, and necro.)and told me about their experience liking lolibait shows, consuming THAT type of media and regressing to a childlike state.
(now i wonder if this was due to previous traumas which made them develop the disorder, or if they faked being a "little" because thats apparently really popular now)
they attempted to groom me while i was 12-13, while they were 18 and in college. this left a bitter taste in my mouth especially. i still support getting treatment for any type of disorder mental or physical. I urged this adult to do the same, and i told them that they cant control their disorder and its okay to feel this way. this is literally what made them okay with thinking they could try to groom me. i obviously set my boundaries because i heard of similar stuff going on in furry communities i was previously a part of, so a lot of my furry friends that were adults taught me how to deal with the situation. this is when paraphilia becomes something extremely hard to reason with because when does somebody who has been subjected to a lot of isolation from society consider "comfortability" as a way to cross boundaries or see comfortability as a way to get what they (obviously cant control) desire?
this is why i believe the last line of the og posters blog that was "lets make paraphiliacs comfortable enough to get help" is a very difficult point to even prove, because if you do try making paraphilliacs comfortable with their disorder you might end up encouraging it or even being roped into it like myself. in fact, pedophilia and all sorts of terrible necro and child content is avilable on the internet with easy access. its the fact we basically accepted these people as "just a part of the internet" and made them OKAY with consuming "loli" and whatnot, with people like kris tyson and shadman who both enjoy cp and l0li HAVE PLATFORMS STANDING TODAY, on twitter, socials, etc. their lives arent ruined. they arent in jail. they live in houses. they have running water, electricity, food and social media. they arent "ruined" or "cancelled" anymore. theyre just now a joke, or an accepted part of internet history.
and about your sex stigma comment i wholeheartedly agree. sex ed at a young age has informed a lot of teens about important parts of consent, protection, etc. it doesnt discourage you from having sex or yell at you for being a slut (at my school anyway)- it just informs you of the risks and how to protect yourself. I really wish society was like that as well. its be much better to prevent sa or r4pe in teens and children.
i agree too with your roleplaying comment cuz as long as ur only role playing with another consenting HUMAN BEING that is not a minor and you dont actively seek out your illegal desires in like.. yk children, dead bodies etc.. thats fine. its just that people believe rping can enocurage somebody to again seek illegal stuff, content, or like an actual animal, child, etc to do stuff with. which they arent wrong but it usually doesnt happen..?
i also included resources because i saw so many people who were also paraphilies agree with them, like justifying themselves and i would check their blogs just to be flashed by like a thousand blinkies about how much they love shotas or something. i seriously think that providing help to people who need it rather then trying to self-justify yourself is a much better route. like i said spacehey is like a small knit community. a lot of people know each other and its likely that only a few thousand users that are really online everyday, so by spreading this message on a blog site/forum like this site is literally just seeking approval of a community rather than actually bringing awaraness like the og person claims.
by cupid ♡; ; Report
omg, i'm so sorry that happened to you, i hope you're in at a better place now. and yes, i totally agree with what you said about comfortability. there is a definite line between being comfortable enough with your paraphilia that you accept yourself for who you are and move on vs expressing it and your desires in public settings. bc let's be fr, nobody cares if you're a paraphiliac, you don't get fuckin special rights to express your desires and assault other non-consensual people just because you have a paraphilia. like, you realize normal people don't do that either? and i feel like while paraphiliacs (the ones who control their desires and are actually getting proper help/therapy) can be accepted, the paraphilias themselves can't. i'm sorry. i'm not EVER going to giggle with my friend when they said "oh yeah, i jerked off to the thought of an apple sauce commercial yesterday!! hehe, so casual, totally normal behavior!" like that will never be something which i will consider normal/accept. there's a difference between acceptance of the person and the acceptance of their paraphilia. i know it might suck and you can't help it, but that is nobody else's fault, and it is definitely not MY fault for thinking that pedophilia or zoophilia is weird or concerning.
by ♡ Meena ♡; ; Report