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DISCLAIMER: This blog post mentions stuff that can be distressing for some readers going on topics of suicide/sh, s/a, illegal paraphilias, sexism, and much more.
DISCLAIMER 2: This blog post is an open discussion and simply my opinion/POV. I wanna hear if you agree, disagree and why. Feel free to comment ur opinion, but keep it respectful.
Hyperpop is one of my fav genre evers. From laptop!! by dreamcache to Ibitbt by 3l3d3p to skinwalker by Souxxie Sixxta to ferrari by Alice Gas its just so creative. It also leans on leftist politics, feminism, gender expression, queer/POC freedom and meme culture which i absolutely love.
But youll never catch me listening to its subgenre scenecore without at least feeling disgusted, or weird.
I dont hate scenecore for how it sounds, im a huge fan of EDM being mainly all i listen to, and, as i mentioned, I love hyperpop.
Its bc of the obvious romantization of serious issues, sexism, co-assosiations w r4pe and problematic paraphilias, using punk emo and scene as mere aesthetics, ect. that make me grow a hatred from it.
WHAT REALLY IS SCENECORE?
As said before scenecore is a subgenre of hyperpop, it draws inspiration from the scene subculture and nightcore. It became popular on social media in the early 2020s. It is characterized mainly by the pitched-up vocals, "nostalgic" melodies and the weird lyrics.
The lyrical themes often explore edgier topics compared to the original scene subculture, like mental health, gore and drugs, but instead of using it to bring more awarness, it simply feels like its a huge romantization of everything, as the themes in the lyrics seem to be the same and are treated the same.
ITS NOT "NEW SCENE MUSIC", PART OF "SCENE REVIVAL" OR RELATED TO SCENE AT ALL
The music genres for the scene music dont change just cuz its a new generation.
For context, genres that represent the scene subculture are Crunkcore (Ex.: Dot Dot Curve, Brokencyde) Pop Punk (Ex.: blink-182, Avril Lavigne), Metalcore/Deathcore (Ex.: I Set My Friends On Fire, EATMEWHILEIMHOT!), Post-Hardcore (Ex.: Pierce the Veil, A Day To Remember), Happy Hardcore (Ex.: Disko Warp, S3rl), Nightcore, Pop Rock (Ex.: Paramore, Fall Out Boy) and a genre themed as "myspace music" (Ex.: Millionares, Hellogoodbye).
The reason why some people started assossiating scene with hyperpop was because during the corona virus lock in, the 2020 tiktok alt fashion (Also know as 2020 E-kid) surfaced. This alt style was and is assossiated with the hyperpop music genre as it was at its peak in 2020 to 2022. This style had a lot of inspo from scene, as both featured funny hats (like the famous floppy ears bunny hat), kandi, neon clothes ect. which i believe lead people to confuse the two, so scene started to be assossiated with hyperpop as well, later then creating this own genre.
PLAGERISM IS A PROBLEM THEY ALL GET AWAY WITH
One of the most famous scenecore songs ever ''HANDS UP!'' by 6arelyhuman is just a version of ''Hey Baby'' by Pitbull and T-Pain with edgier lyrics and an extra beat over.
Most scenecore artists use the beat or even lyrics of a song that used to be popular back in 2000s-2010s, only changing a few words or adding extta beats. I get that music parodies always existed, yet, when you copy almost everything and get away with it by saying its a "sample" or something like that, naming it youre own thing, and publising in apps like spotify, apple music and iTunes, there should be legal action in my opinion. Most times they just use the beat, change lyrics + add an orginal beat, but they still use a song that isnt theirs, which is the main focus of those songs most times.
Music is all about creativity as it is a form of art. Its so unncessary for a this to happen in such a big amount.
ROMANTIZATION OF DISGUSTING CRIMES AND THINGS THAT CAN RUIN SOMEONES LIFE
''ecstacy'' by SUICIDAL-IDOL
we all know what the ''r-'' means.
''VIOLENT'' by kaneda7
this is the most edgylord shit ever holy shit get help??
''one more time!'' by H3ARTCRUSH
Simply a romantization of manipulation.
''I H3ART Y0U'' by Boy Fantasy
Gore f3t1sh
''HANDS UP!'' by 6arelyhuman
Scene girls being sluts is an infamous stereotype. And in general the idea of a man calling a girl "slut" is misogynist
Self explainatory.
Obsession with self-h4rm and gore, its a very obvious romantization, if not a f3tish even.
This is not a one case.
MOST POPULAR SCENECORE ARTISTS ARE WEIRDOS
this whole thing was made me feel kinda sick so i dont feel like typing much, anything i will edit this later.
Kets4ki + britany manson.
more on the britiney manson and situation - https://youtu.be/c8sc9oVODB8?si=T9GxNz_d8iE0vVrn / https://youtu.be/Tpq8mm7RuPg?si=fy05VBIi_dA0sRH-
punkinloveee situation -
https://youtu.be/MKlLYqIl-B8?si=Zyuzo6iO8sn_lPo1
A HORRIBLE REALITY I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE IGNORING
Its time to realise and admit it, scenecore was created a safe space for these disgusting people to share their horrible and illegal f3tishes and desires through songs, where instead of people telling them to get help or call the police, they listen to the songs legally, supporting the artists and giving them fame they dont deserve at all.
Of course, I couldnt go off without blaming tiktok a little a bit for this. They created really fucked up parasocial relationships with most of these people, defending them no matter how weird they are and, of course, made this genre popular in first place
HOW FAR CAN WE REALLY SEPARATE THE ART FROM THE ARTIST?
In better words, if an artists art describes their horrible wishes and fantasies, what is the point of liking their art? There should always be a limit, for everything.
For the same reason you dont like art of an artist who draw illegal paraphilias but was a nice artstyle, i wont like the music of a scenecore artist who sings about having a scene $lut who wants to cut her wrists and k1ll herself just bc theres a catchy beat.
This subgenre of hyperpop goes angst what hyperpop created.
I dont like scenecore and i believe it will be hard to change my mind, but still this is an open discussion so please comment your opinion, I will read and reply to all comments.
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Tir3d.P4p3r
Yea i noticed this this as well, the music was catchy and i didnt really understand the english in the songs very well bcs they were so high piched and stuff. And when i looked at the lyrics...Yea safe to say i was discusted.
I thought, ok its based on scene music and scene is abt partying and stuff whatever, but why tf does that party theme have to treat women like dumb people only good for sex?? Its pissing me tf off. Esp the kaneda song, my god its so fucking gross bro is literaly singing abt hating his gf for having bpd and self harming??? Put these people on a watchlist goddamn...
I actually liked the gore theme in the songs, bcs i like fake gore like art and drawings and whatnot, and i think gore can be artistic and a way to vent for some people. That being said, its verryyyy common to see shit people in the community like mysoginists, racists, transphobes etc etc. At that point its not even abt gore anymore, its not abt the beauty of the human anatomy or the venting themes like self harm and whatnot, its just people fantasizing about hurting people they dont like (Women, trans people etc) bcs of their stupid selfish and ignorant sadism. I think its esp true in these songs, calling women sluts and whores and talking about wanting to kill their gfs and stuff, like yeah buddy, im sure u wont hate crime women in the future lmao
I ignored the gore stuff, but i couldnt ignore the sexism. I started going trough every song in my playlist, analying the lyrics to see if theres any mysoginistic shit in it, and i couldnt find a single fucking song that didnt have it
U can argue that any gore stuff is problematic, but the way its talked abt in these songs feels so...idk unconsensual in a way. Its toxic. U can have a healthy bdsm type relationship, but these mf lyrics feel so toxic and are there just for the sake of fantasyzing abt hurting people without consent its so gross.
THANK U someone for talking abt this. Its been bothering me for a while but i didnt see anyone else talk abt it. These people are trying to be gross and as edgy as possible and should have never become popular. 1, get the mf sexism and bigotry out ur gore shit, and 2. Dont have that gore shit mainstream to the main public, its just not good.
vampstaff
but why user Cam Luvs Chase so mad about felix #truth
krakzy
Hello, I understand where you come from.
All of this is not entirely true, but not entirely false, from my point of view.
Music has always been used to express yourself, even under the most vile lyrics, it was made to say what couldn't be said under normal circumstances (e.g, talking with someone, you're not just going to say you want to kill them).
While it's true it can impress young teens, internet has always been a public place made for everyone where anyone could express what they wanted to express. This is also why there's spaces reserved to adults. Platforms like Spotify also implemented something, where you can see if it contains explicit lyrics, and this was made to avoid such cases like influencing young teens with such lyrics, since internet became one of the places reuniting millions of teens.
While I agree though putting real self-harm picture on Spotify wasn't the best idea they got, the lyrics are something else. A lot of people can feel represented through some of these songs, while I still agree some songs do not make any sense through their lyrics, since they're not really trying to express any thoughts they probably just want fame.
But like I said, some songs might want to express what the artist feels deep down, for example when they mention sluts it could (COULD, I obviously don't know their intent) be disgust. They can also talk about themselves in a third person way, even if unlikely in some cases.
Singing about gore/killing can be compared to killing people in games, you wouldn't do that in real life. Only difference is that one is singing in a song and the other is an action a video game.
That is obviously my point of view, talking about songs lyrics of artists that have been cleared as non-problematic (as in, no drama going on behind the scene), I didn't dive into problematic artists because it's another subject, knowing that art changes depending on the artist's actions and personality.
With all respect obviously! Hope the person behind that post is doing well, just wanted to share my mind on this.
That shit is a bit too long LMAO really sorry about it, hope you'll still read it though
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i read it through and yeah honestly i can also see where this is coming from. im sure this is not a situation where everyone is doing it for pure fetish/romanticization (at least i hope so) and is genuine vent art. the main reason why i felt like to me it was is bc the wording always tends to be the same when talking about it, they dont sugarcoat it or use expressions to talk about dark thoughs of harming other or themselves which typically someone going through this doesnt tend to be comfortable talking about (saying this from experience), but again, this is different for everyone. i think your point is also valid and ill make sure to add a lil disclaimer to the blogpost. thank you!
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Thanks to you too for reading it and yeah, sadly most of the early songs from scenecore (but also some of the new ones sadly) contain stuff that is not necessarily fit for teens, but also for adults since it only contains shock values (as in dropping the word "r*pe" when the song has NOTHING to do with it) without any true lyricism :/ I totally understand the point of your post, trying to warn mostly the young community to not get into stuff like this and it's very thoughtful of you! :]
I hope you've been recovering from what you went through and I wish you the best
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anotherzombie_goodbye
I legit just made an account just to comment on this but yeah i wish it didn’t idolize disturbing sht like this bruh especially with impressionable younger fans listening to it and thinking its cool
Vic / Dagger 👾♊️ (#1 SebSol lover)
ive been thinking this for the longest time yo, finally someone i can agree on with scenecore
vic
also 6arelyhuman isn't even scenecore ??
Then what is his genre
ill admit his songs arent bad lyric wise as they were but he literally is scenecore
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hes most popular songs are still scenecore tho
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none of his songs are scenecore
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none of his songs are scenecore
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none of his songs are scenecore
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ITS ALMOST LIKE THIS GENRE ROMANTICZES THESE THINGS BECAUSE THE ARTISTS USE THE MUSIC TO COPE YOU CRY BABY
youre surely the one not coping in this situation
also read thefucking blog post lazyass 💚
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''they romantize that stuff to cope'' WHAT ABOUT THE LYRICS BENG MISOGYSTIC AND TALKING ABOUT YOUNG PPL WEIRDLY LMFAO
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love how that has never happened
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Love how you ignored the proof in my blogpost
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vic
awwww you poor crybaby
NurzeeXP
I do not wanna sound edgy or stuff but can we leave Kaneda7 out of this situation he made that song in 2022 he doesn't make those typa of songs anymore hes now making witch house n fantasy type music he even mentioned that he hates his old stuff from 2021-2022 + he deleted the songs from his sound cloud, he can't remove the songs from Spotify especially violent because if he does that he will lose shit ton of monthly listeners cuz thats one of his most listened songs but what I'm telling here is that he has changed he hates his old stuff he even has a gf now he doesn't make stuff like that anymore so can we pls leave him out of this situation like hes the least problematic 'scenecore' artist he doesn't even make that genre anymore
Sat00me
Jus 2 add something in ur blog: im fairly young in the alt culture and i dont know that much but im pretty sure that the wrist cutting thing is another steriotype for scene but especially emo, some plp think that emo/scene is just a excuse 2 make depression and self harm into ur whole personality but ITS NOT. Btw, i loved ur blog.. its rlly well made and i totally agree w u <333
YES THIS!! AND TY!!
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I LITERALLY SAW A BLINKIE THAT SAID " G*RE WH**E " N I REMEMBERED THIS BLOG
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alice
as a victim of sexual abuse and as someone who has experienced serious depression that almost lead to self-harm, it disgusts and disappoints me to see just how little care there is taken to these subject matters.
everyone knows most of these artists' audiences are young and impressionable teenagers who can, have and unfortunately probably will continue to be pushed towards terrible ideals and behaviours through being exposed to the romanticization of these views and stereotypes. thank you for speaking out
I wish you the best and i hope youre healing. I feel like its really NEEDED to speak about this
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it took a long time but i'm on the road to recovery. thank you again for speaking out. its important now more than ever, especially with the rise of these kinds of artists as well as just these sorts of disgusting people in general
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Finley_Is_Here_Xd
i was young and an impressionable teen back when 6arelyhuman was popular and their songs of making sh seem "quikry and cool" make me think i 1) cant be scene without doing those things and 2) almost get me into shtwt :skull:
HOLY SHIT I HOPE UR BETTER NOW but what you mentioned is like a serious issue, baby scenes will think thats scene music and get the wrong picture for it even maybe danger themselves like you almost did.
On the better side it seems like 6arlyhuman doesnt talk so much about sh
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I'm still in my valleys but im going back up day by day so thank you <3
and yeah i fell to that pitfall most baby scenes go through these days and even though 6arelyhuman doesn't talk bout much sh in their songs now [thankfully]
i worry other scenecore musicians glorify sh in the same vein,
and again, ty broski
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Rinny!!
BASED!! tysm for this post omgggg
Cyrox
i mean polish fandom of ketseki always know that he is weird and done bad things in the past
giggleshitter666
great post and all but saying that you listen to 4lung seems kinda hypocritical considering they are a pedo furry who supports CP
I dont listen to 4lung theres only a song mentioned
and i didnt even know about that
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thats great then, it just seemed like that because you mentioned their song!
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yeah ssorry in advance, i will probably remove the song
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atlas :D
ive been saying this for so long 🙏 the romanticisation of g*re and sh is insanee
Yall are so sensitive. I like it when my sh is romanticized. and fictional gore is not hurting you.
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hey so idk if ur ragebaiting or not but pls get help
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Actually yes it is lmao
it affects a lot of ppl psychologically specially victims of violence and ppl that struggle with sh
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No, I do not need "help" dont pretend to be concerned abt me when we both know you arent.
And for ash, its not hurting anyone, plus i AM a person who struggles with sh so dont speak over me
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so am i lol? it affects me a lot seeing ppl romantize something thats ruining my mental health. its not any different from ppl that romantize stuff like gr00ming to me.
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sonicagain2007
I loves scene core but mostly because I didn't know what the lyrics said. THANK YOU SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH FOR MAKING ME AWARE OF THIS! I think that this stuff is insane and should have someone moderating the shit people are saying in their songs. This is so gross... Also thank you for re-directing me to more songs near the top of the blog that aren't just disgusting
I WILL be showing this to my friends and anyone else I can get my grubby little hands on. THANKS AGAIN YOUR AWESOME AND KEEP SPREADING AWARENESS!!!
Francis
This post gave me a huge better insight about scenecore and why it was hated, and from someone who is currently learning about this subculture and is starting to get into this fashion too
Im glad this somewhat helped:,) i hope you have fun exploring the subculture!
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Thanks, but I happened to stumble upon another post similar to this that has a different perspective to scenecore and they said that scenecore was more on the Kandi raver side that is much related with S3RL’s music , but like I am unsure if that’s was true though but but there was one part of the video where it says that you have to be at least 18 or above to be scene which I kinda find with a side of saying “ehhh…?” Now but I somewhat read this post and the video on a bad headspace so it made me feel panic and felt guilty to discover scene as a teen so I don’t think the one I’ve watched was more reliable
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No thats.... a lie. Scenecore is based of nightcore and embraces issues that were romantized on the early days of scene on myspace. Also you dont need a specific age to be in a subculture? Scene is for everyone.
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Rajko
Solution: listen to better music
so real as always
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Ryleemustdie
I love this type of music so much! But I agree with you 100% some of the songs I’ve seen + the lyrics in some of the songs I’ve heard in this genre are absolutely insane and uncalled for, and it’s so upsetting sometimes to see because I really like this genre but I agree it’s really really REALLY weird some of the covers+titles+lyrics some of these songs have