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I was raised as an atheist and I don't believe that I'll ever be in an organised religion, but lately I've been questioning whether there may actually be a God. Not in any way that a religion depicts Him, with a narrative which science has poked holes in, but in the simplest sense: a creator of the world, or a presence much stronger than all of humanity, which we could never be aware of.
The more I think about it, the more I realise how utterly arrogant it is for us to believe we could ever know everything happening in the universe. Saying that one thing is unprovable doesn't automatically mean that it doesn't exist, it's simply unprovable.
Then I began thinking, if we were to define God as simply a greater being which made us who we are, isn't God real through the form of society? Doesn't the environment we're raised in form us, as different people react differently to this environment?
To sin is to commit an act against God, so isn't to sin simply to commit an act seen as immoral by society's standards?
If we were to define God by this simpler definition, then He would exist on some level.
In a sense, if someone believes something, or even if someone just imagined something, it becomes real to an extent. Money is something completely fabricated by humanity, of an imaginary, socially constructed worth and yet we consider it real.
I'm not sure whether or not I can call myself an atheist anymore. I can't make any claims about if the existence of a higher being is true or false, and I believe both sides will never have any "proof" in their favour -- theists will never be able to truly "prove" God is real and atheists will never be able to "prove" that there is nothing.
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Saori
I understand your reasoning, and I think it's great that you're questioning things with an open mind. You're right—just because something is unprovable doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
Let me ask you a question: Do you have a brain? You’ve probably never seen it with your own eyes, yet you believe it exists because of logic, experience, and what science tells you. In the same way, we may not see God directly, but that doesn’t mean He isn’t there.
You mention that society shapes us, but where did society, the universe, and existence itself come from? But if we go further, wouldn’t it make sense to ask what allowed everything to exist in the first place? Society, nature, and even the universe itself had to come from somewhere. Everything we know has a cause. A pen has a creator, a house has a builder so doesn’t it make sense that the universe also has a creator? Some believe in an endless chain of causes, but logically, there must be a first cause, something that wasn’t created but that allowed everything else to exist.
TIGERLUCKI
Wow this is so eye opening. You just opened a whole other chamber for me to think in with Gob being society/our environment.
farmer tom
Yeah it has always annoyed me that God's existence is unfalsifiable. The Christian God is immaterial so there is no way to test and prove/disprove his existence.