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On Abortion

I'd like to preface this with a disclaimer: These are my opinions, which as such, I do not wish to "force" on anybody. I read a blog post by a user who's name I cannot write or pronounce, which seems to have gotten popular on the blogs section. It had me thinking, and since they felt strongly enough about the issue to air their thoughts on it, I thought I would do the same, so I humbly submit my own.

First, they list their opinions on abortion:

  1. That it should be legal, everywhere.
  2. That sex for the express purpose of pleasure should be normalized, for both genders.
  3. That others should not choose to push abstinence (from pleasure, I assume) on others based off personal belief.

They also mention not being ashamed by having an abortion, which isn't really something I can have an opinion on, it's more a matter of personal emotion.

These are common, thus understandable opinions on abortion. I stand, almost completely, at the opposite of this kind of view.

I think abortion is a very large issue, that should be allowed to be discussed openly and intelligently. I also think abortion reflects much larger issues of society, and thus cannot be addressed singularly. Ban it unconditionally, allow it unconditionally, both have less than positive repercussions. I'll just make a basic response to each of the points cha0tic_ali3n (I'm going by their spacehey url) brought up.

  1. I believe the legality of abortion should be up to a peoples decision. For example, where I live, in the United States, I believe it should be put to a vote in each state regarding the limits and legality of abortion. In my religion, abortion only by ectopic pregnancy is allowed.
  2. This, I disagree greatly with. The biological purpose of sex is to create life, and pleasure happens to be a consequence. To pursue sex for pleasure is pursuing a drug for its side-effect, not its purpose, and its ultimate purpose is going to catch up to you. For a more extreme example, an adrenaline junky accepts the possibility of death when doing extreme things, to not accept a more-than-possible outcome is to be ignorant, willfully or not. Further, if that thing happens, death or life, you should have had a plan in mind when you started, if that were to ever come about. As you said this should ideally apply to everyone regardless of their gender.
  3. I agree that people shouldn't berate others on their choices, but the idea of "forcing an opinion" is impossible, you cannot force an opinion on someone, because it is an opinion. You might be able to force "agreement" to an opinion from someone, if you were held at gunpoint, but If you make a choice, you must be prepared for others to disagree with it, and sometimes, the more obnoxious among them choose to do it vocally.

Thank you for reading, and please remember I have nothing against anybody, and am simply making a response to a public blog post. I welcome cha0tic_ali3n to point out anywhere I may have misrepresented them.


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lucien zeal

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what makes you think you get to choose what happens with other peoples' bodies


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That's a good question. It's really up to how you perceive it. I am not saying someone shouldn't do it because I personally don't like it, I say they shouldn't do it because I believe that it is a fundamentally immoral thing to do based off a belief higher than myself. I believe in an ultimate system of truths that, since I believe them as truths, apply to everyone, even if they don't believe it exists. It's like how I might say that even though an atheist doesn't believe in God, it doesn't stop God from existing. Even further, according to that system of truths, at the moment of conception it stops being entirely their body, and thus not up to their judgement.

by Enamerus; ; Report

what i'm pulling from that is you think someone shouldn't get an abortion because your god says no. i'm not going to get into religious arguments here but you say "forcing an opinion on someone is impossible". what you're trying to do here is force rules onto people because of your opinions. see how that comes across?

also, obligatory "a fetus is not alive". it's some cells. you step on creatures more complex than that every day without noticing. it eventually becomes alive, and by that point abortion is impractical. before then, it is entirely up to the person carrying the fetus what they do with those cells, not you or your god

by lucien zeal; ; Report

I think you misread point 1 straight away
"I believe the legality of abortion should be up to a peoples decision"

by hxlloketty; ; Report

and then they went on to say that legality should be decided by vote. which is the majority's decision, not the individual

by lucien zeal; ; Report