alt kids are getting a little mean

is it just me or are alt kids (specifically online) becoming so mean to people just starting out with the alt scene or basic people. like the term normie sounds so weird to use on a person??? like this is not monster high yall😭 like why are y'all being so mean to people who just have a basic style??? who cares??? 


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tranzXemo<3

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Not to mention the arguments about politics in subcultures and music like to most online alt people they think if you listen to a popular band you must be a "poser" because like no I don't have to listen to an underground band with only 3 listeners to be alt any band that makes alt music popular or not is still alt and subcultures do have politics but people online refuse to admit that you can't be conservative and alternative they only like it for aesthetics and now everything is watered down and gatekeepy and loosing it's meaning


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blankfairyu

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I dont like how 2020 tiktok had made a lot of alt people so gatekeeping.
I rlly dont care how other people dress or what they do. BUT lets not let the term normie die its so funny to say (as a joke dont attack me)


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andy(no1 ray toro stan)

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i hate how some alt ppl are very gatekeepy like this is alternative subcultures why are we trying to fit into boxes?? if it doesnt go against what the subculture is about, let ppl be creative!!


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Omar

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9/10 times its a cheeto fingered fatty who doesn't leave the basement and uses pictures from 2021 before they let themselves go LOL


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Nick

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i feel like they just use terms like that just to "feel" different than the rest but to be honest its kind of cringe. Like there's just no need to make someone else feel like shit because they're not into the same stuff.


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L3ya

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bro thats legit been happening for decades rip


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sosu

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i mean, maybe this is just cuz im older but this has always been happening with younger alt communities lol i was in middle and hs in the late 2000s and early 2010s and theres always been this like "normal ppl SUCK" mentality but i think that kind of just goes hand in hand with being an edgy teen. i dont doubt that its worse now due to the fact that social media encourages toxic behavior, but alt kids have always had a thing against "normies" or "preps/preppy kids" like i would've said in middle school lol it feels almost like a right of passage for some edgy alt teen to make friends w someone w more conventional fashion tastes and realize "oh wait they're fine i had this image in my head that wasn't real" it is nice though to see new younger alt folk push against that idea a little bit


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i think theres also just an added layer of everyones just much meaner online lately than they used to be too :( theres a reason i dont post art or fashion stuff on platforms like tiktok or instagram anymore because the userbases have just gotten really cruel for some reason

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xeviant

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Realest of reals. I don’t get the whole calling ppl a poser or normie thing, just let ppl be??? Unless they’re like. Actually causing u or ur subculture harm.

Never understood why everyone has to conform to a cookie cutter stereotype of something when the whole point of alt culture is to be yourself and be unique.


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爪卂ㄒ

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it's identity politics. children think they invented some cool people group and push people out who dont stroke their ego or question them. social media robbed them of emotionally developing enough to understand the intricacies of people being different regardless of if they have a band tshirt on. its simply ironic: "alternative" fashion has become mainstream, and as kids do, they bully other kids that cant join every trend. its nothing personal. just leave them be.


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austin

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+ i noticed a lot of them (specifically tiktok alts) say stuff like "weird people are so cool!! i love losers!!" but when they meet someone actually weird or literally just someone that isnt skinny and white (doesnt fit their ideal of a "cool alt person") they start making fun of them real quick


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StaSta.mp4

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REAL i've also encountered alt people making fun of other alt people simply because the other person's style is less known?? I think people should just wear what makes them the happiest :)


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bakedbeans:)

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calling people normies is insane


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totally ikr like do they really have to put down other people to feel special??

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Txpiara!

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YESSS OMG


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Apollo

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I 100% agree with you !! Its even weirder that people in the alt community want to be accepted and not made fun of, but then some of them go and make fun of people they deem "normal" ?? I think everyone just needs to let everyone be themselves without all the judgment, its sooo unnecessary.


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wowzerg

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everyone's trying to one up each other and be the "most."
+ there is a lot of like...callback... i guess to older alt styles like scene and stuff and ig people are insecure about not being og or smth idk
even this site is more reminiscent of an old site than something like instagram now


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xryxix

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i think it's not just an alt person thing but the pull yourself by the bootstraps and sheer lack of community mentality has really infiltrated across every community type. especially with how online spaces have commodified traction and followers. depends on the person and how people around them are too but idk a lot of folks act mean to prove something instead of just, proving something and it's so absolutely wack. i just wish folks were more genuine w each other. mean people are mean tho and it's pretty unnecessary unless someone else is seriously being awful or something like that


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yep, this

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Too real actually :<


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𓊆ྀི︎𓊇ྀི sugarbuni_

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for real. as an non basic person (idk whats my style is called) i could not care less abt how other people dress ;-;


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Kenny ✩﹗

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i completely understand the argument of "alt people have always been mean" but i really do feel like it's a slight mis-contextualization made by media in the 90s-2010s. the community has always been loud and firm in their ideologies, many of which encompass basic human rights. they were always mean to corruption/oppression, but being mean to a random dude just sucks. deciding to make someone's day worse literally does nothing but put you at a higher position unfairly..... kinda poser behavior if you ask me (kidding). i feel alt people were painted as mean strongly by mtv, when many of them would enter the stage to preach kindness, they were called "vile ghouls" (not making that up). i think emo being mean was just a product of a very dark and uncertain world time, and maybe we'll think the same about 2024 in a decade. as someone who had a preppy social butterfly sister around 2010, i think all the teenagers just were on edge and therefor kinda rude, because her group had the same edgy style humor as many emos did.


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All of thissssss

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nerdyraccoon

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Basic people are really not the bullies alt people tend to shame them as. I think they happen to witness these situations where SOME basic people bark at alt people or something and assume they're all like that. About people just starting out, I'm only mean to them if they are the "I don't bother to look up shit and I ask you how you did something and expect you to give me a tutorial on how to be you", these guys annoy me sOOO MUCH. Ik they're asking genuine questions but GOD DAMN IT CAN YOU ACTUALLY TRY TO DO SOMETHING BY YOURSELF???? "omgg can I be this style if I'm x, y and z?" take a wild guess


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not to mention most "styles" they ask about always have more stuff to them than just the way it looks, and when you expect everything to be served simple and easy to you and water stuff down to just the aesthetics it becomes harmful to the actual history of it all.

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i understand that, but i think it comes from a geniune place when it comes to style. most starting out are kids/teens who are really growing up with the more aesthetic side of the subculture than anything. thats how i found out, then i decided to research more and listen to the music, ect. i think its nice to direct them to learn that its a subculture and not an aesthtetic, if they choose to only go the aesthtic route, at least u tried yk

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yea barking isnt that common for me

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