Alternative to Google Groups

Hello!

This is only relevant for those people who read or post in that
newsgroup using Google Groups.

Google will discontinue Groups in 2024.

For those who do not know Usenet:

Usenet is a distributed communication system consisting of many servers.
Google Groups is only one of them that closes down - other servers will
stay available, but people need to use another server to read and post
here.

There are 2 alternatives:

Using a web-based Usenet interface:
Those behave similar to Google Groups, you can read there, but for
posting you need to register an account for free.

One of them is:
https://www.novabbs.com/tech/thread.php?group=sci.electronics.repair

Another alternative is to use an NNTP server with a so called
newsreader.

As an NNTP server, some free services exist where you have to register:
https://www.eternal-september.org/
https://solani.org/
https://www.i2pn2.org/

For using it, you need a newsreader.

Some examples are:
https://www.thunderbird.net
https://www.betterbird.eu/
https://claws-mail.org/
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/

You then need to configure a newsgroup account, sometimes also
called NNTP.

For most servers, authentication must be enforced in the newsreader's
settings.

For Thunderbird, a tutorial is available here:
https://www.big-8.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_Usenet

For questions about configuring those readers, feel free to ask in
the group news.software.readers.

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/WNfyyZ1gVUA


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>>> >>>No. Google turned off the google groups gateway
>>> >>>to usenet in february.
>> >>
>> >>Google doesn't control Usenet posts.
> >
> >The "clowns" in the subject line that Leon referred
> >to were posting using google groups around the turn of
> >the year, the message bodies were mostly in Thai.

Yes, I remember. I sadly still see similar postings.

> >Google groups stopped supporting posting to usenet in February,
> >mainly because they weren't interested in policing the
> >posts that originated from GG.

Very probably true. No one, esecially businesses, wants to spend time
and money on futile things.

Are you posting from Google Groups? Are Leon and Puck?

I'm reading this post from rec.woodworking on Usenet. Not via GG.

I tried GG years ago but few groups I read were available. I stuck
with Usenet but it's a far cry from what it was and fading.

Let me know if you want a screenshot.

> >To that extent, they control all usenet posts that originate
>from Google Groups.

Yes, Google controls what comes from Google.

> >I've been on usenet since 1987.
Congrats! Nice to know I'm not alone.
I started in '81. I still miss my acoustic coupler.
As a few here I suspect do, I live in the land of CRAP (constant
reminder aches and pains) of old geeks.

I've been on Usenet too long. On EasyNews for 22.689 years alone and
more (previously) on Newscene, Giganews, and others. A number of
companies I worked for and with used newsgroups to communicate
technical information, before the days of online chat and IT
informational database applications. Now Usenet is just a place of
random junk posts of trojans, viruses, scams, and trolls, etc,.


Anybody who wants to stay current on Usenet will need to find a new
client and network news transfer protocol server–the post advises
Googling for help with those things–while the non-Usenet parts of
Google Groups will remain as they are today.

Referenced from:
https://www.pcmag.com/news/end-of-an-era-google-groups-to-drop-usenet-support


Reminds me of a well known technical journalist (a.k.a. Bob Cringely)
who wrote an article decades ago saying broadband was dead. Many of my
collegues were in disbelief this guy would write said article that I
had to give them copies. Goes to prove we literally don't know what's
coming or the entire story. If broadband had died, Covid lockdown
would have been an entirely different experience. I'm glad it's not
dead and hope it gets broader and faster.


Bob Cringely says Broadband is Dead (Article posted 2001-10-11 on PBS)
Friday Oct 12 2001 10:29 EDT by mszv

Cringley's latest pulpit reads comprehensive last rites over the still
warm and twitching body of the broadband industry. CLECs, Telcos,
ISPs, Cable providers and even the broadband porno industry, are all
condemned as at best, stagnant, at worst doomed. Over to the man
himself:

By this, I mean that the industry for providing homes and individual
users with Internet access at speeds in excess of 500
kilobits-per-second is not generally viable, and the current players
in that business are likely to decline over time. There will be little
or no growth in broadband subscriptions over this next year, and it
will be very hard for broadband ISPs to be profitable.
Taking a leaf from the book of a contrarian wall street trader, one
who sells gold when his cab driver starts to buy it, one could say
that now everything is known to be doomed, is it time for the
strongest to start making some real money?


Maybe I should update that tagline? lol!
Welcome to [USEnet] InterNET? Adjust your reality.


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Please configure your newsreader to access

news.eternal-september.org
The port number is 119. This is the standard port number for news servers and should be set as a default in your client. You also have to configure your client to use the userid and password you will soon receive by email.
If you are only able to select groups in the

eternal-september.*

and posenet.*

hierarchies, your news client has connected to the server without sending the userid and password. Please refer to your newsreader's documentation for information on how to configure server access with authentication or check the FAQ

In case of problems or questions don't hesitate to conatct support@eternal-september.org.


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