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Alliance's "Bigot List" Post Is Doing More Harm Than Good

Previous blog for further context- https://blog.spacehey.com/entry?id=784343
Shurikin has made a blog providing context and screenshots which is worth looking at - https://blog.spacehey.com/entry?id=784214

I should get it out of the way that this in in reference to Alliance's blog - https://blog.spacehey.com/entry?id=782523


Now I'll make it clear that obviously some of the people on that list are definitely homophobic and that I don't agree with the opinions of everyone on that list however this approach is harmful as there's some folks on that list that aren't even homophobic (Look at my blog linked above for reference). One of them is even bisexual and one of them was talking about a topic which was not meant to aim any hatred towards the LGBTQ. Making that list has only lead to those folks being harassed, receiving death threats, and being told to off themselves. Also I've decided to include as much as possible in the screenshots so you can get a better, clear picture of what's going on.

For further context, Syra definitely isn't homophobic as she's bisexual and made it clear she's part of the LGBTQ, but she was put in that list so these were the replies to her comment.Image
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Now I want to provide screenshots of some of the folks wrongly put on that list making it clear that they do not hate the LGBTQ from what I can tell and from what it seems, some of this stuff were misunderstandings as they may have worded things weirdly.
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In reference to Syra's blog - https://blog.spacehey.com/entry?id=784389
Syra makes it very clear that she does NOT think every LGBTQ member is a pedo, she even states that she's bisexual and that she's apart of the LGBTQ as-well. Further-more she talks about how she's received harmful replies, more specifically the ones telling her to off herself. However, it's made very clear that those folks are definitely harassing her based on the replies. The "Spacehey LGBTQ Alliance" account even denies the stuff she's been through as a result of the list when there's direct evidence of it. Here's the replies to Syra's blog. KEEP IN MIND THAT SYRA IS NOT HOMOPHOBIC, SHE SAID SHE'S BISEXUAL AND IS APART OF THE LGBTQ.
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There even seems to be some implication that Syra was indeed being targetted, that the purpose of the list was indeed to harass folks.
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Another thing I'd like to tackle is that if you look at the "Spacehey LGBTQ Alliance" account's blog, you'll notice that some of the replies in the screenshots aren't there which would be because those replies were deleted and if you don't believe me, here's a screenshot. Note: I do not agree with the things that cvv has said. Image

I may make another blog like a part 2 to this or something to show more of the awful things people were saying, but that depends on how things continue to flow.


Obviously do not harass or try to do anything to the folks talked about in the blog, you'd be stooping down to their level by doing that. This blog's intent is to show what's going on to not allow certain folks to continue twisting the narrative to their benefit and attempt to stop some of the toxicity and harassment that are resulting from this situation.

Obviously some of the people on that list are quite harmful, but there's also folks who were wrongly put on that list. Though that does not mean I 100% agree with their opinions, but I believe that no one should be harassed and be told to off themselves as seen in the screenshots.


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BIG MONEY SANCHEZ$

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They ended up getting rid of the list and apologizing so I guess everything's done now.


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That was the most half ass apology i've ever read too lmfao

by Syra (Checkblogsplz); ; Report

Good that girl was weird asf.

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please keep this blog up as its proof that it even happened. engiqu33ring is blowing this way up out of proportion than it needs to be


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can i use this blog as a reference in my own blog.


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Sure.

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Syra (Checkblogsplz)

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ALLIANCE WAS BANNED YIPPIE


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Yeah I noticed lol

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That's why I only come on this site to lurk low-key I'm not Abt to have a bunch of kids cussing me out what lol


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Milla

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honestly lgbtq alliance should have never existed coz it just created a lot of drama about someone who wasnt even hating lgbt in the first place ._.
i know some homophobia needs to be addressed but it should be done in a more calm manner and also need to make sure theyre adressing the right person XD


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and to anyone that reads this please report the blog that claims that syra is LGBTQIA alliance. you can see how its ruining her health currently she literally posts self harm photos on her bulletins shes genuinely being worn down by all this,


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oh wow. and now people are trying to say that she's lgbtqia alliance. have they never read a single one of syras blogs in their life. they dont know what happened, what went down, i witnessed it all but was never involved. i can tell for a fact that lgbtqia alliance is a whole different person and she doesn't deserve the harassment she gets.

theres a blog claiming that she created alts just to divide spacehey, which, i dont even know why anyone would create a division on such a small platform for no reason.


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Neli

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The people saying that LGBTQIA Alliance IS Syra have also admitted that they know they aren't the same person, They just want attention


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Psikho

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targeted harassment like this whether it's for people who are morally in the wrong is morally wrong in itself.


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Dayum


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Preaaaaach that young lady is just against pedophiles she don't be deserving the amount of hate she get


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Syra (Checkblogsplz)

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V Addressing whatever this guys saying

I am those ethnic/racial slurs. Hohol is a ukrainian slur. I am literally ukrainian.

I don't support kids being on HRT because of my own experiences, do i harass them? No?? I didn't say i was anti trans i just don't want people to hurt themselves.

I'm not homophobic?? If you actually read the blog you'd see that it's anti pedophile and not anti lgbtq... and also take into note i wrote that at about 3 am too so. I don't have time to go over and correct every little detail, i'm a hardworking artist AND i need to also fit in time between working on commissions and hanging out with my lover and taking care of my house.

I apologize that I came off "nasty" to you but I was just talking normally... if you just told me that my words were hurting you i would have told you that i meant no harm because I didn't? If having a different opinion is suddenly toxic and nasty then please keep me blocked

Why do i need to apologize for something that barely relates to the topic (which is the UK twitter thing)? So i got 1 little thing wrong. My point still stands that maps are not apart of the lgbtq community and I don't associate with the people that are accepting them into the community, which THERE ARE PEOPLE (and i have met some too)

The corrections are in public display in replies because I don't delete comments unlike your sacred LGBTQ Alliance account you try so hard to defend, if they want to correct me in comments ill tell them yes, i know, my mistake but until then nobody (sane) really seems to care


I apologize you think that I'm being a "piece of shit" for expressing my own opinions but I'm not attacking you in any way dude...


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YOUVE BEEN OFFLINE FOR 3 DAYS WHERE DID YOU COME FROM

by Syra (Checkblogsplz); ; Report

Wouldn't surprise me if they're stalking you on their main account

by Gray ; ; Report

Yea me and some friends are talking about this guy stalking me and shit nobody just appears coincidentally and goes offline right after

by Syra (Checkblogsplz); ; Report

1) there was no where on your profile that stated you were Ukranian, it says german-american, obviously people are gonna get upset at you using ethnic slurs towards ukranians if you, yourself, do not state your ukranian...

2) no one is saying you cant have your opinions, but opinions, like any train of thought, can be extremely harmful. The issue isnt that you have the opinion that kids shouldnt be on HRT, but its the fact you actively are spreading it, trying to get people to share the same opinion as you. As you probably remember, I have already stated (and gave cited sources) as to why your opinion is incredibly harmful, and opinions similar to that can lead to kids taking their own life because they dont have access to the healthcare they need. Just like with every form of medical care, your experience does not define them all.

3) as I stated, being gay does not exclude you from homophobia, you can still say extremely harmful, homophobic things, as a gay person. saying "maps dont belong in LGBT" is common sense, no sane person argues against that, but its the way you go about it that pushes the EXTREMELY harmful, and homophobic stereotype that "all gay people are pedos", this is what most people have been telling you. If you want I could unpack why the entire "Not socially acceptable to target young children's "sexuality"" blogpost is INCREDIBLY homophobic, and incorrect, as my comment correcting you about the chant that was being said got deleted. Among multiple other blogposts youve made.

4) It should be common sense that spouting transphobic remarks and then actively getting agitated/more heated is going to hurt people. I blocked you because you refused to look at any of the links I gave you and just kept rambling about the same transphobic nonsense. I only unblocked you after learning how you are spreading said nonsense all over the site, and wished to see what else you were posting. Why do you keep hiding behind the word "opinion"?!?!!? you literally CONTINUOUSLY use it to justify your actions and the things you say, almost as if your trying to downplay them and act as if its not big deal. As I stated opinions can still be "bad" and "harmful" just like every other string of words, train of thought, etc. Just because you choose to be bigoted about yours doesnt make it not harmful.

5)You need to apologize because is very much so still relates to the topic are you kidding me?!?! you called the queer flag the MAP flag,,,, any person who may not know what the queer flag is will see that post and from that point on and instantly clock it as the MAP flag, even though they are very different. Making it so that people who are queer will have lots of trouble with sharing/hanging/using/etc their flag, and can even cause them to be targeted for harassment.
You didnt just "get a little wrong", the entire blogpost was built on you misinterpreting a twitter post, you dont necessarily have to apologize, but the LEAST you couldve done was edit the blogpost either correcting yourself, or finding a new source/image that used the MAP flag and not the queer flag-

6) My entire thread is literally missing bro, it got snapped to dust, sent to the shadow realm LMFAO, you literally deleted it. Im not defending the LGBTQ Alliance, idek them, I got here because I saw this, and some other blogposts in the literal blogs section, towards the top. You made multiple edits in the posts getting pissed at people correcting you, and telling you why your wrong, but none of them (idk if theyve been updated yet) were your correcting YOURSELF, or even editing your posts to correct the misinformation!!! it was literally you putting your foot down, and dying on the stupidest of hills.

Finally, I havent been calling you a piece of shit for "expressing [your] own opinions", Ive been calling you a piece of shit for making very harmful, incorrect, and bigoted takes, and then when you get called out on them, you refuse to hold yourself to literally any virtue of accountability, and instead play the "woe is me", or "Cant I have an opinion!" card, to hide behind, and even defend the things you say.

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???? Ive said nothing homophobic my blogs are literally talking about how people group maps into the lgbtq community and how maps arent apart of the lgbtq community so gay people arent pedophiles im convinced youre pulling shit out your ass now because you tend to write giant paragraphs all over the blog space about how harmful it is to point out that there are pedophiles, but they arent the majority. Did you fail first grade reading comprehension?

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Also why is everyone saying im transphobic now and saying im using my bisexuality to get a "homophobe free" card the fuck are you people on about. I like girls and guys. I dont like pedophiles ruining my reputation, okay? I made the post because of another post by a different user talking about the same topic, which was putting the entire situation in a negative light and saying straight up "this is what the gays are doing to our kids!!" And i made my blog as a counterargument to be like "stop this shit we dont associate with that shit, its not socially acceptable if youre STRAIGHT or gay"

so do you fucking think gay people are pedophiles are not? Choose your fucking side

by Syra (Checkblogsplz); ; Report

Ah yes because free speech was never an option on this site, its 1984 all over again dude. Just wipe your tears away and get over it because it's not my problem you don't know the context to my posts and is now actively insulting me for dissasociating MAPS with the lgbtq community

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did you read literally ANYTHING i just said?!?! I write as much as I do because its all necessary to tell YOU why youre wrong. saying trans kids shouldnt have access to HRT/puberty blockers is transphobic. Calling the queer flag the MAP flag and then not correcting yourself or changing your post is homophobic. Spreading misinformation about a chant that says "were not going shopping" and saying it says "were coming for your children" is homophobic (the man behind the camera was saying it, not the entire crowd). Literally no sane person defends MAPS, they are pedos, any person who defends MAPS is also a pedo. simple. The ONLY people who group MAPS with the LGBTQ+ are pedos, and conservatives. "so do you fucking think gay people are pedophiles are not?" NO?!?! why are you trying to strawman me LMFAO. obviously I dont, but unlike you Im actually trying to have some fucking nuance in this situation.

Now lets break down some of the things you said in that post and point out whats/why its wrong, not including the incorrect flag you used! (found here: https://blog.spacehey.com/entry?id=781342), if you misinterpret THIS im literally going to combust. Please follow along. because this one is gonna be LONG

"people will say it's homophobic for saying that lgbtq individuals are pedophiles even though the community will come out and openly accept the pedophile "sexuality"" No one accepts MAPS, the only people who do are pedos. It IS homophobic to say LGBT people are pedos, (unless if you are talking specific people) because that is rightwing rhetoric that is actively being used to try and pass anti-gay laws. They say things like "gay people are groomers" even though its not the majority. They also talk about it like its a separate issue from the pedophilia that straight people do literally all the time, even though its not, in fact places like churches have a MUCH larger issue with it than the LGBTQ+ as a whole.

"Nobody labels them as pedophiles simply because they are gay" they do. they LITERALLY do, that is one of the MAIN reasons people are mad at you. MANY conservatives will literally call you a pedo/groomer just for being gay. Its also apart of the argument for them trying to make drag illegal.

"Stop endorsing pedophilia. This includes openly expressing kinks and sexuality (both gay AND straight) around children" If this is about the whole "kink at pride" discourse, literally no one brings it around children. If children ARE around it, most of the time it is because their parents brought them to an 18+ pride event without realizing, even if not, those are isolated events. There are SFW pride events where kink is not allowed and they happen literally everywhere. The only time you see people advocate for children at 18+ pride events is on twitter, and if thats your source for information I IMPLORE you to go outside, since most people on that site say stuff just for the sake of being inflammatory/edgy, as well as the fact you have linked it to me before on the topic of minors and HRT.

"HomoSEXUALITY is not SFW" this is fucked up, and also ties into my argument against your blogpost about "not accepting children's sexuality". Sexuality does not just mean sex. Sexuality encompasses all relationship types, and while "homosexual" and "homo-romantic" are different terms, people use sexualities like "gay", "bi", "lesbian", etc as umbrella terms, not JUST for sex. No one actively identifies as just "homoromantic" or "homosexual" (besides people who are asexual/aromantic), those are just singular detailed identifiers/one singular PART of what makes a sexuality.



You act like MAPs are a genuine/widespread issue in the LGBTQ+, or as if they make up a large majority of the community, when they dont. The only people who say they do, are conservatives, and pedophiles who say they are MAPS. Your main point being "MAPS arent allowed in the LGBTQ+" is completely valid and true, I agree with it, as do most sane people. But as I have stated my issue is with how you go about spreading that opinion, because it is misinformed, and misguided.

"Ah yes because free speech was never an option on this site" As I have said you can have an opinion, but that opinion can still be largely rooted in bigotry and falsehood. You are the only one saying people are "insulting [you] for dissasociating MAPS with the lgbtq community", people arent mad at you for that, theyre mad at you for how you go about it, and how your argument reads as "IM not a MAP but idk about the rest of the community!" you arent outright saying all gay people are pedos, but it definitely reads as such, not to mention throughout these blogposts you have various little homophobic remarks that only add on to why people would get mad. As you have stated yourself, "actions speak louder than words". You can openly express your hatred for MAPS. The issue though, is that you cant seem to do so without spreading misinformation/homophobic rhetoric/bigotry. And then you refuse to take accountability when called out and act like youre the victim, as you were literally doing so in that last message.

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And you still miss the point.. you definitely took writing class but still need first grade reading comprehensive skills. Also theres nothing transphobic about not letting LITTLE KIDS go on hrt and surgery thats genuinely disgusting because they arent even old enough to smoke or drink but they get to make the life changing decision of changing their gender.

Thats not even my topic though and never was so i dont know why youre trying to pull up irrelevant shit, saying im racist and transphobic when its not even the blog topic. Maybe you just have too much of an ego and have the same "it didnt happen to me so it doesnt exist" mentality. Please open your mind to the possibilities because im not here to read the novels you write me daily and i don't tolerate turning a blind eye to very real possibilities and problems in todays society

by Syra (Checkblogsplz); ; Report

"little kids" arent going on HRT, and even if one or two do, there is GOOD reason for it, and they need both parents permission, and recommendations from someone with an actual medical license. Puberty blockers are the PERFECT example of that. Y'see this is EXACTLY what I mean when I say you spread misinformed, and misguided opinions/information, we have literally ALREADY been over this yet here we are, youre spouting the same nonsense, making personal attacks rather than staying on the topic of conversation, straw-manning, ETC.

I pulled up that shit because "being homophobic" isnt the ONLY thing youve done or said on this site. When I write the many paragraphs I do, its not against one or two blogposts. It is against your very existence on this site, and all of the shitty things youve done and said.

Im not saying "it didnt happen" Im saying its not as big as youre making it out to be, and that by treating is as if it is, you are only furthering the ideologies and stereotypes you claim to be against. there are literally hundreds of sites/sources that show that. Not like that would even matter since its not like you CARE about sources, or factual information to begin with. Let alone the fact that the "possibilities and problems in todays society" that you claim are all rooted in bigotry and prejudice.

You dont have to read anything I say, because at the end of the day that very action tells me all I need to know about you as a person.

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??? Why the hell do you need to know about who i am LOL i don't even know you and i don't want to because every little paragraph you send is just "i'm ignorant and don't know how to read" so please get a life instead of stalking me and my friend's blog posts and waiting for the very second i go online to start shit, you're literally the same as the other people that harassed and stalked me because every blog post that mentions me you're there, like you're fucking obsessed with me

by Syra (Checkblogsplz); ; Report

that's the thing, I DON'T know you, but from everything I have learned of you online so far, you don't seem like the best person to know personally... Also I'm not stalking you lmfao, not everyone on this site is out to get you, multiple of your blogposts are literally on the front page of the blogs section. Also, here's a shocker! when you respond to me, I get notifications!!! crazy how that works, the more you respond, the more I reply.

Also dude, if you think THIS is harassment, then you might wanna pick up a dictionary As I said, your blogposts are literally on the front page, and I've only responded to like TWO of them before this one. In neither of which was I 'harassing" you, rather, telling you why the things you say are extremely harmful, toxic, and just plain incorrect. YOU'RE the one who has been making personal remarks towards ME when called out, and then the second I say anything in return you go and cry wolf. Quit acting like you're the victim because you're upset I called you out on your bigotry.

I'm sorry if you're getting genuine harassment from other users, but i promise you, this is not it.

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this blog isnt even on the front page and you literally have comments on 90% of the blogs that mention my name fuck off stop stalking me youre obsessed and you like pedophiles or some shit, i don't want to associate with you so leave me the fuck alone since you're ignorant and turn a blind eye to pedophilia and apparently can't accept any other opinion except your own so just stop stalking me and block me again please and thank you

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just wanna say!!!! to all the people defending SYRA, while i dont think most people deserve death threats, they are not an innocent person and are genuinely a horrible and terrible POS :) They actively believe and spread misinformation, and refuse to admit fault/edit/delete their posts when called out and informed on so (EX: calling gay people pedos, saying the LGBT+ community accepts MAPS, being transphobic towards children/anti-HRT for minors, etc). On top of that I got into and argument with them a while back and corrected them, and even cited multiple reliable sources on why theyrewrong, and instead of correcting themself or admitting fault they got nasty and i blocked them! Even on their own profile they have a blog-post "denouncing" MAPS, said post was about a twitter post that had the "MAP flag" and was "supporting" it, even though it wasnt the MAP flag. It was the queer flag, and even after being corrected they have not edited or deleted their post because "their sentiment still stands".

ALSO kinda offtopic but they have also been called out multiple times for calling people ethnic/racial slurs!!!! so... yeah... all in all they are an incredibly insufferable person and while no one should get death threats (unless they are a nazi/fascist, or are actively harming people directly) SYRA is a genuine piece of shit and you guys should not be defending them! :D


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also i want to add that JUST because you are gay/bi/trans, you are NOT absolved of being homophobic/perpetuating extremely harmful behavior!!! you can still be gay and be homophobic/transphobic (EXAMPLE: people who preach LGB without the T). so yes, they are still homophobic, because they are actively perpetuating anti-LGBT+ sterotypes, ideologies, etc!

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Pesco, we aren't defending the things Syra has said. We just want to stop the harassment that she keeps receiving. No one deserves to be repeatedly told to off themselves by multiple people.

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okay but when you CONTINUOUSLY post this kind of stuff you should be continuously told off, until you stop, because that is doing the absolute bare minimum. Which is why I stated, she does not deserve death threats, but being told "Hey!!! this is extremely incorrect and harmful! Please stop making uneducated posts like this and do your research" you choose to not only leave said posts of harmful behavior up, unedited and all, only with your apology buried deep in the replies, but you *continue* to make more uneducated, hateful, and harmful posts just like it? yeah no sorry. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I feel bad for them for the awful message they are getting, but in regards to the people continuously telling them their wrong, over, and over again, I feel no empathy, or even pity. To not only say these kinds of things, but only apologize only in a place where it isnt going to be seen, and not deleting said harmful posts, or at the very least editing them only shows that you are still extremely ignorant and refuse to change.

For example earlier this week, she made an entire blogpost called "Not socially acceptable to target young children's "sexuality"". This post was about that video of people chanting "were here, were queer, were coming for your childred", OBVIOUSLY I stated that the video in question was completely biased, and no one there was chanting that. Every one was instead chanting "were here, were queer, were not going shopping" which is a chant that has been used at marches literally since the 90s, In protest of corporations co-opting the rainbow flag to make quick money. The only person who was saying "were coming for your children" was the man behind the camera, who was only there to cause trouble, and make it seem like it was something its not. Instead of admitting fault, my comment ended up being DELETED and the post remains unchanged :)

While she may say "I dont believe all of the LGBT+ are groomers" she actively has made false, uneducated, posts that do not make it seem that way. She may not be blatantly chanting the "all gay people are pedos" harmful stereotype, but she is certainly actively reinforcing it. The only way this is going to stop is when syra stops making these kind of hateful, inflammatory posts, and refusing to give any kind of follow up admitting fault, or any public apology afterwards.

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love u for this pesco /gen

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jesus christ. im gonna unfriend the lgbtq alliance dude rn, ty for this post


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No problem

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wow


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Hate makes hate. People who dogpile like this make me sick. These people aren't fighting for peace or progress, they're only spreading hate and trying to feel superior.

I despise people who hate mindlessly


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I want to at least stop some of that harassment towards Syra and a couple other folks who I believe were wrongly put on that list even if I don't 100% agree with all of their opinions.

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Yeah, for real. Barring politics, syra seems like good people. Its just a shame they got caught up in the political lynch mob

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Yeah, for real. Barring politics, syra seems like good people. Its just a shame they got caught up in the political lynch mob

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mood

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