Hallooo! If u follow my profile u know dis has been a LONG TIME comin XDD Finally I can lay out what I think of posers in a neat easy 2 understand blog uwu XDD
Essentially, this blog will be a guide 4 what constitutes as being a poser (Or at least, poser behavior), what a poser really is, what this "scenecore" thing is, and other stoopid crap! :D
I think it's best though 2 first start off with what a "poser" is!
What is a poser? Is it a bad thing?
Lets answer the first question :3
A poser is someone who claims 2 be apart of a subculture but isn't actually because they fail 2 check a huge check that classifies u as apart of said subculture. An example being someone who only listens 2 Jazmin Bean claiming they're emo (Failing 2 fit the music criteria) or someone who's far right claiming they're punk (Failing 2 meet the political criteria).
Most ppl who get accused of being a poser feel like the accuser is "gatekeeping" the subculture and they often feel attacked and as if they're being accused of a bad thing.
The issue with this mentality is that it stems from the assumption that a subculture is some "Club" u have 2 "Pass" 2 be apart of when that rlly isn't the case :P A subculture is a group of ppl who share a similarity or set of similarities, it's not something u have 2 "train" 2 be apart of. Because of this, the only way 2 gatekeep a subculture is if u also adopt the belief that it's some kind of "club" u have 2 qualify 4 (e.g, an emo telling another emo they're not "a real emo" because they don't listen to From First To Last). Simply telling someone they don't fit basic criteria isn't gatekeeping :P An example I could make is if u walked into a book club and said "Hello, yes, I'd like 2 be in this book club! :D", "Ok, where's your book?", "Oh, I don't have one. I H8 reading :3.", "Sir, you do realize this is a club 4 ppl who... Like reading... Riiiight?", "WOT!?!? HOW DARE U!!! STAPH GATEKEEPING" XD
Is it bad 2 be a poser? Let's continue using the example 2 explain dis :3 There's nothing wrong with not liking 2 read, and there's nothing wrong if u happen 2 walk into a book club not understanding how a book club works, and it's totally fine if u still don't like reading after learning this knowledge. Perhaps, an easy way 2 fix this situation is 2 go by a different label? Rather than "Book lover", call urself "TV lover" or whatever u like! Hell, even if u still call urself a "Book lover" after this, ur not doing anything wrong, ur just being rlly fucking annoying XD The only actual harm comes in when u call urself a "Book lover" even though u h8 books so much 2 the point where ppl 4get what a "book lover" even actually is and the actual subcult- I mean- Club gets buried :V
So essentially: It's not a bad thing when someone calls u a poser. Could a nicer word be used? Yes! But it's not a bad thing, they're not saying ur not "Good enough" 2 be in the subculture, they're just saying that the subculture dosen't fit u and well, if it dosen't fit u then u probably wouldn't have enjoyed ur time in it anyway :T
So... Why do ppl continue calling themselves a subculture even when they know they're posers?
From what I've seen? They just want the label.
When a subculture, like scene, becomes trendy, ppl want 2 be "in the club" and constitute as what's "cool". It's exactly why back in the 2000s a bunch of ppl who listen 2 The Backstreet Boys started calling themselves "emo", it's just "Cool" 2 be XD That's why you'll get ppl on scene posts go "I'm *kind of* scene, RAAAWR X3" and then u look @ the rest of their page and it's just some fuckin dark academia fairy type bullshit XD
This and also the fact that if ur "in the club" u get 2 insert all of ur stupid opinions into it and pass it off as fact cuz "As a scene kid"... We'll touch on this more l8r in this guide ;3
What is "Scenecore"?
Short version: The poser version of scene
LONGEE version: Scenecore is what happens when u take 2022 bullshit and a piiiiiiinch of actual scene culture, mix it in a pot, and throw it at the fuckin wall- XD
Scenecore, as u can already tell from it's name, stems from the mistake that scene is an "aesthetic" and not a subculture. Because of this, most ppl who identify as "scenecore" r posers who have never even heard of BrokeNCYDE TwT Scenecore is often categorized by it's absolute misunderstanding of the scene aesthetic as "Just the 2000s in general". That's why often in scenecore collages u'll see things like Lucky Star, Tamagotchi, Miku, Carebears, and other things that aren't actually in the scene subculture. Glitchcore is something also often used by scenecores along with characters from the game series "Danganronpa", since that fanbase ruins fucking everything- XD
Scenecore also has music attached 2 it, but as u guessed, none of it is scene music- Scenecores often listen 2 basic bullshit TikTok music like hyperpop and Ayesha Erotica that "sound scene" so "It must be scene!". This is not 2 say that if u listen 2 either ur not scene, the problem is scenecores consider these genres inherently scene, 4getting that BrokeNCYDE is just... CHILLING IN DA CORNER XDD
How do scenecores dress? Scenecores often dress fitting the "2000s in general" description I described above. Since their aesthetic only utilizes what they believe is the "aesthetic" of scene, their outfits are usually decora levels of complex usually only featuring "scene" looking things like Invader Zim shirts, colorful patterns, and "cringe" things such as art of furries or MLP merch. Scenecores never and I mean NEVER actually have scene hair and 99% of the time have messy curly hair that usually covers their faces 2 some extent. Scenecores also often wear BUTTLOADS of kandi because it's the only thing from actual scene culture that they can stand XD Scenecore's outfits usually never feature the large parts of a scene outfit (Belts, skinny jeans, Converse) and usually always feature accessories that s o m e scene kids wear but they aren't actually apart of the subculture (fishnets, fingerless gloves, chokers).
I SHOULD NOTE! There is NOTHING wrong with these kids dressing like this. I think it looks ugly af but y'know, they're expressing themselves! XD The issue is the fact that ppl who dress like this usually are scenecores, AKA, POSERZ
Examples of scenecore outfits:
Wait, wait, what is "poser behavior?"
Glad u asked! >;3
Poser behavior is something that an actual scene kid themself can have. In a nutshell, it's beliefs about he subculture that aren't true and usually pave the way 2 a complete misunderstanding of the subculture. Like the From First To Last example I used above. Essentially: It's when someone, whether actually in the subculture or not, has an incorrect understanding of it
Let's get into some more examples now, shall we? :V
Not believing that posers exist
Ppl usually adopt this opinion cuz it's "Wholesome 100" and "#StopGatekeeping", again, going back 2 the First To Last scenario, it comes from the mentality that a subculture is some kind of "club" u have 2 qualify 4. Most ppl who don't believe in posers say this because they think ppl who call others posers are "Halting them from entry", again, having the belief that a subculture is something u have 2 fill some friggin form out 4 XD
Attributing arbitrary details 2 the criteria
Similar 2 the first one, this comes from the belief that a subculture is some "Club" u fit into. Again, The First To Last scenario, taking emo's rules of being in touch with your emotions and listening 2 pop punk 2 a VERY specific level that comes across as ACTUAL gatekeeping :T
(Specifically 4 subcultures like emo and scene) Attributing politics or some kind of morality as being a "requirement"
This is the one u'll probably see the most, it's often excused though because it's, again, "wholesome 100" XDD
Often u'll see ppl say "U can't be a homophobe and be scene" or "U have 2 be anti authority 2 be scene" or "U have 2 be anti corporation 2 be scene". The problem with this is that scene is a SUBCULTURE. Not a MOVEMENT, there is a HUGE difference.
A movement is a subculture formed from a political or moral ideology, a subculture is simply a group of ppl who share something in common. Because scene is JUST a subculture and not a movement, it has absolutely no moral or political requirements 2 joining. Yes, that means u can be racist, homophobic, fatphobic, ableist, or misogynistic and still be a scene kid. Heck, u can be a pedo and be a scene kid, just look @ Dahvie Vanity! >_>
The funny thing is, despite the fact that these "nu-scene kids" r claiming that u have 2 be a liberal 2 be scene, a lot of OG scene kids actually WERE bigoted XD
Other than this, one u'll often see A LOT is the belief that scene started from the basis of some EPIC tale of NONCOMFORMITY and OTHER BULLSHIT XD. U'll often hear nu scenes say "Scene is all about shaking the status quo!" or "Scene is all about saying fuck u 2 the standards!" when rlly there's no evidence that scene started as either. In fact, from research, it seems scene started instead similarly 2 the hipster movement, a bunch of kids just wanting 2 be "different" and "special" and "Not like other girls" XD That's cool, that's cool XD
In a nutshell: U do not have 2 be liberal 2 be scene, u do not have 2 be super nonconformist fuck authority 2 be scene, u just have 2 like Breathe Carolina or I'll give u a middle parting XDD
Other than that there's just small shit like nu-scenes getting offended @ everything when OG scene kids actually did the offending (Some lyrics from scene songs: "I don't waste my time with lesbians", "Look at that fat slut over there", "I'm a pirate, nigga!" (Sung by seemingly a white woman XD As a black scene kid rlly I don't give a shit but I know others wiiiiill XD)), nu scene kids putting kandi on fucking everything when kandi was actually a rare occurrence 4 most scene kids (The only scene queens I know who often wore it were Ambrehhh Is Dead and Lexi Lush :P), and modern scene kids often wearing neon fingerless gloves when only emos did that... Which I mean... I can't blame modern scene kids they're prebby XDD
That's not 2 say that these differences r wrong, no, they're good! Evolution is good! It's just differences that I think r interesting 2 note :3 Except the main three I listed, those r bad cuz they're false info and... Annoying XD
So what constitutes an ACTUAL scene kid?
The funny thing is that it's RLLY hard 2 say. O.o
Scene kids were actually RLLY varied in their music tastes, personalities, looks, etc. The most easy definition I've conjured is "A kid who often listens 2 scene bands" since listening 2 the music puts u in the culture, everything else rlly is just add ons :3 Honestly though, SoEMO
has a better and more descriptive description except 4 the quotes where they ask ppl on SoEMO 2 describe scene, those r just very inaccurate XD Except 4 this one :3
"Brokencyde, Dot Dot Curve, Breathe Carolina, Attack Attack, Bring me the Horizon.. They are considered very mainstream scene bands"
And with THAT I has 2 go 2 bed XDD I hope this helped and got out all of my dumb frustrations XDD My followers tend 2 enjoy seeing me rant about scene so I hope u found this fun 2 read??? Idk??? XDD I purposefully avoided defining scene as a subculture in this cuz I assumed if u clicked on this u already knew what it actually was =w=
Anyways I'm rlly tired so ya I'm going 2 bed bai XD