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Every country does have the right to exist, including israel. I'm not saying this because im pro israel, but rather because i hate benjamin but it doesnt mean the entire country should collapse. Both palestine and israel should exist but benjamin and the IDF is the issue. Israel is a holy land for jews, both ethnically and religiously, and it isnt moral to take away that. And it isnt moral to take away the home of Palestines (sorry idk what the civilians are called, is the palestinians?)
The star of david isnt a hate symbol, but the israeli flag is because israelis full of hate.
A true jew would understand israels wrong being, and that its unholy.
I'm not a zionist but every country has the right to exist but their leader doesnt, and we shouldnt call every jew a zionist.
I'm not denying the existence of zionist, and israel itself isnt the enemy, rather benjamin is.
Benjamin has declined so many peace offers to disarm hamas but he hasnt, he has also been doing war crime with targetting civilians. bejamin is evil
We shouldnt blame every single jew for israel, your just anti semetic and your using pro palestine as a excuse. you cant blame every single 15 million jew and if your going to complain and tell every jew to kill them self (as yes, heiling hitler IS EQUIVLIENT) your the problem, i can name 5 jewish families i personally know that have donanted to causes to help gazan children i imagine there are more, and you are just sitting there telling every single jew they are the problem or making jokes that personally, are insensitive for both jews and Palestine's ("love from tel aviv!" "bbno$ concert" "free palestine" (on a post of a jew just existing)) because making jokes like that are both blaming innocent (in the case of jews who done nothing wrong, anti zionist/hate benjamin), and mocking the innocents suffering (palestine)
Yes, most reconstructionist jews ARE zionist, but not extremist like benjamin, more like "yeah israel should exist, but benjamin sucks" because they also support palestine
war is evil, and every civilian against the evil country, even if it is theres is innocent and deserve freedom and blessings.
i dont speak for every jew, i know there are many who support israel and benjamin, but im defending my brothers and sisters in my community who are being blamed and harrassed for something they couldnt do
i speak from my own experience being harassed as a minor before i could understand the war, you are the problem harassing every jew when you should harass openly pro israel ones, and do things to support gaza
While i am 13 and don't have the best opinion, i want to defend those who didnt do wrong
while personally, i know palestine started it because of refusal to disarm hamas and treating hamas well, benjamin isnt even targetting hamas anyrather and rather civilians.Β
both sides do have evil, what we need to free is the people
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Ivory
israel absolutely does NOT have the right to exist. countries don't have rights, people do. Israel was founded on the idea of apartheid and the genocide of palestinians, and is inherently an ethnonationalist theocratic state.
Israel is not "the holy land for jews" there's nothing inherently holy, and a religion that takes up 0.2% of the world population sholdn't be valued over the lives of millions.
also, even if israel *did* have a right to exist (it doesn't. again, nations don't have rights), there's absolutely zero chance that it's going to change.
i said the goverment is the issue, there have been times in history israel was not being an issue. if benjamin wasnt leading right now wed probably not be in this situation. and why does 0.2% of the population not deserve historically, their holy land, its equivalent to how the Vatican is to catholics.
by lilly ββ§°π²ΦΌπ’; ; Report
israel has always been a problem, since their foundation they have been conquering the land of palestine and genociding palestinians. Israel has ALWAYS been a problem.
also, religions don't deserve land. Theocracies are inherently fascistic. The jewish people deserve to have somewhere to live, but it's not like they were being pushed out of their countries and forced to kill palestinians
by Ivory; ; Report
while that parts debatable, currently, palestine hasnt also taken effort to disarm hamas too, just like israel, its two sides of evil, ones worse yes but there isnt one true innocent side other than civilians
by lilly ββ§°π²ΦΌπ’; ; Report
it's not "two sides of evil", hamas was created to fight the government actively genociding them. Yeah, hamas isn't perfect and I do have gripes with them, but they're freedom fighters, not terrorists. Why on earth shold Hamas be disarmed if they're the only real form of resistance in gaza against the israeli government?
please watch this video: https://youtu.be/3mKhJ9t_hCw (it's goofy in some aspects but the overall message is entirely serious)
by Ivory; ; Report
id trust a news source rather than a youtube video, especially one where they can take a massacre and genocide serious and still needs to use jokes as thats insensitive to everyone: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67480680
palestine has taken no effort to disarm hamas, as yes it started, but israel IS using it as a excuse to do genocide, while hamas just did a masacre. yes your right hamas was origionally to protect palestine, but they started it, but israel isnt even targetting hamas anymore, and israel has decline offers from other countries that would disarm hamas
source of palestine not disarming hamas:https://arabcenterdc.org/resource/disarming-hamas-what-analysts-get-wrong/
hamas themseleves are regetting and the palestine goverment isnt doing anything, but israel isnt even targetting anymore. this will be my last comment as im not resaying all of this
by lilly ββ§°π²ΦΌπ’; ; Report
xspaceboyx
you make very fair points, i just disagree with your first statement.
Occupied Palestine has NO RIGHT to exist... like... AT ALL.
it was deadass only made bcuz some guy was like "i want a country only for jews" n the banks n the rothschilds were like "ok".
then BOOM. declared a state in 1948 (i believe.) which sparked up a war bcuz these rich asshats js took the homeland of the original palestinian occupants.
no country or state should be excluding people based off their ethnicity or religion.
another point: talmudic jews genuinely think everyone who isn't a talmudic jew is worth less than the worms in the ground they walk on.
and quite frankly, that attitude doesn't sit right with me. and it shouldn't sit right with you either.
I think countries have the right to exist, but not their goverment/what they are being occupied by (i dont know the word as it isnt technically dictatorship) when their goverment/occupation is the problem. like i said i dont have the best opion, i havent even finished 8th grade yet so im still learning a lot about everything
by lilly ββ§°π²ΦΌπ’; ; Report
js keep educating yourself on these matters, and don't use your age as an excuse to remain ignorant, man.
also it'd be worth your time to look into the history of israel as a "country". best place for that is people who do deepdives on youtube imo. not tiktok, because a lot of the "informational videos" people upload on there are js retarded claims with no real backing.
a person whose vids i'd recommend is this guy on YT, valenti (something). (i forget, but it's a guy with a beard who shouts sometimes).
by xspaceboyx; ; Report
thx for the rec. im only mentioning my age due to the fact i am ignorant so for these discussion i cant be expected to have the entire story, and thanks a lot for being paitent with me on this and keeping it respectful <3
by lilly ββ§°π²ΦΌπ’; ; Report
sharkboylover_12
Hating just is a hate crime because not every Jew is a horrible person that wishes for the death of children and is a big ass racist ( Zionist ) , but I just wanted to say it is not a war that is happening but a Genocide have you seen the state of the children of the people there , hospital's are being bombed intentionally, journalists are being killed by the IDF just so people will know less about what is happening they are R*ping the children, the mother , they are torturing them do you known about that boy with down syndrome that was shot by IDF and left to be eaten by their dogs ? Anyways free Palestine and stop anti-Semitism
At the beginning I ment hating Jews* not just sorry my autocorrect is in French so there might be a lot of spelling mistakes
by sharkboylover_12; ; Report
completely agree with you. currently my knowledge on the genocides right now are very limited due to my age (13) and i only know it for the war because i seen the news labeling the genocides as one. I definetly agree with you antisemetism needs to stop, it becomes the first thing blamed.
its better on youtube, but on tiktok i see comments of people blamming ANYTHING they dont like as israel, lsp is seen as israel and all just the disrespect towards palestine and even the israeli people who are against their goverment (in the sense they dont want said genocide to happen) aside, it just reminds me durning cold war america when ANYTHING you didnt like was seen as communist?? like its 2026 we can be better than this
by lilly ββ§°π²ΦΌπ’; ; Report
hardcorenotscenecore
NOW SAY IT LOUDER