Why is communism so normalised?

1776362369

skoro jestes z polski to bede pisac po polsku
przede wszystkim, wiekszosc zwolennikow komunizmu [no moze z wyjatkiem usanczykow ktorych znajomosc historyczna zwiazku radzieckiego wynosi sie z postow na twitterze, a co wiecej sami nie znaja osi czasu swojego panstwa] rozczlania sama ideologie od ZSRR, poniewaz sam w sobie poglad polityczny widzi wieksza wartosc w ogole spoleczenstwa anizeli w wielkich przedsiebiorcach czy korporacjach, dlatego za czasow panowania stalina eliminowano wlasnosc prywatna oraz ceny byly wylacznie regulowane przez panstwo [podobnie bylo w polsce pod wladza gierka, jedyna roznica byla w propagowanej ideologii, socjalizm zamiast komunizmu] problem w tym jest, jakim ludziom pozwolono wladac ZSRR co wlasnie skutkowalo negatywnemu nastawieniu do caloksztaltu tematyki komunizmu, szczegolnie u nas [o ile sie nie myle propagacja komunizmu jest karygodna xd]

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1776361280

Just know Poland historically NEVER was communist. It's like the propaganda back then that Nazism was a Socialist part when it WASN'T AT ALL. Your country, sure probably tried Communist, but in the world and time of Capitalism. There were STILL social classes and all of Capitalism that isn't in Communism. FASCHISM and as always CAPITALISM hidden in the name of COMMUNISM.
If you want real communism, take examples of the history of La Crimée (Sorry I don't have the English name, but I think it's the actual Ukraine), or actual Cuba.
If I remember correctly anyway, because I have a pretty bad memory.
Communism/Marxism and Socialism surely aren't perfect, but in my opinion are the closest to the best political parts.

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1776273112

i get where you're coming from, but saying communism = bad is too easy, it's like saying anarchism = bad since there are violent anarchists while the original (modern) ideology (proudhon's to be precise) did explicitly say that anarchism should be nonviolent. anarchism and communism are deeply interwined after all, and there are differences to be made between marx's ideology and totalitarianisms built off of a vague description of what's on the communist manifesto

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1776143941

we cannot truly speak on wether or not communism
is bad because it’s never been used the way it’s been intended to have been, it’s been pushed and twisted by dictatorships and now it’s being propagandized to where even thinking it may be a good idea is viewed as ridiculous. and to answer your question “why’s it so normalized in alt spaces” it’s basically ALWAYS been in alt spaces.

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1776048403

Yes. Yes to this 100000 times! It is so clear that ppl who love communism and believe it will solve everything are SO extremely privileged and do not understand how it has only ever worked out terribly. Yeah, capitalism is problematic and NOT ideal. And I get it, communism has never been implemented "properly" and neither have most economic/political ideologies. But also my question to people who support communism is "why do you think it can be," because it feels like humans have proved they cannot really do it. AND I see how the idea of communism and especially socialism are appealing, but people ust don't seem to understand the historical chain of events these systems lead to.

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1776030381

As much as I disagree with communism, the ideology itself has never truly been fully implemented. Marx defines communism as stateless, moneyless, and classless, meaning countries like the USSR and its satellite states didn't actually fit the bill. Those nations were totalitarian socialist states whose ideologies (Marxist-Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, etc.) extended from communism rather than replicated it. The problem is that those ideologies in particular place almost complete control over land, food, the means of production, and power in the hands of a small group of individuals, which, ironically, isn't too dissimilar from capitalism. I can understand the misconception though; the American education system does an intentionally horrible job at teaching what communism really is.

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1775924724

This antisemitism needs to stop. Netanyahu KILL THIS GUY RIGHT NOW!!

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1775747761

I think that a lot of people forget that communism is an extremely far-left political ideology.

I feel like there are levels to this thing: it's okay to be progressivist, it's okay to be a liberal, it's okay to be a socialist, but if one wants to immediately jump to "oh fuck the rich and the system, I guess i'm a commie now" they need to do more research and think of it more realistically.

(I'm from Poland too, it also surprises me how some people glaze an extreme like that.)

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1775738872

for all communities we require a different form of society and different form of government. to be completely against communism is still harmful. i believe all forms of governments should exist and be accessible to all people at all times. some countries and states have benifitted massively under a communist state while some have completely rotted cus of it. to deny one group their needs due to the other not needing it is once again, a truly flawed system. theres a reason most of the alt community is communist, which is that they require a communist state for their living and trust me, a huge portion of people do. the main faliures of communism has always and only been authoritarianism, as all democratic communist states imo have done super well, but its a very risky gamble anyways due to there being a huge vulnerability within the ambiguity of the philosophy that can easily be misrepresented and misunderstood to favour profit of one person once again.

that is why, coexistence is so important. not everyone can handle communism and not everyone can handle socialism and not everyone can handle capitalism.

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1775600986

Arguing against an ideology with "x = bad" it's not fruitful to the political discussion. As a communist from a country that has never had socialist governments (which i dont think undermines my argument) i understand your position especially from the country you are from. I'm not a fanatic, i understand that as much as i admire the USSR for its historical importance in the worker's movement, a critical judgement is fundamental in any discussion regarding ideology. Mistakes have been made, we should learn from them.

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1775522587

i agree

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1775511684

They haven’t had to live under it.

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1774902344

lets be fr, communism is faulty. but so is litteraly every other political system. we, as humans should come up with something else entirely but its also kind of pointless because people are fucking dumb. and they will always try to abuse even the tiniest bits of power they have. corruption is inevitable. everything sounds good on paper (anarchism included) but when you actually have to implement it in real life it starts falling apart.

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1774899803

idk imo they probs stand for the marxist ideology nd not for the actual communism that was applied.

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1774899790

I think that the reason some people are drawn to communism is because they don’t comprehend the fact that theory and reality can be very different. On paper the communist manifesto looks like a blueprint for utopia but everywhere it’s been tried the reality has proven to be very different to the theory.

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1774899739

I don’t see how you can be an anarchist and NOT communist tbh… you need to have a governing body to have money have any kind of value to it, otherwise it’s just paper.

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