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Melanie Martinez is innocent. If you don't know already, Melanie is a singer and one of her friends, or was, who is also a singer accused Melanie of SA'ing her/raping her. Im not sure when Timothy came out and said this happened, but I do know the actual accused SA happened in 2017. The SA happened during a couples game which was Timothy's idea, and she admitted to that. On a tiktok live, someone asked her about a picture that was taken with the materials of the game, which was Melanie with a blindfold and handcuffs on. When Timothy was asked about it, she said her and Melanie went to the thrift store while hanging out and saw the game and Timothy suggested to get it. It was her idea to get the game. And this is only one of the things she's admitted.
Another post that was found by Timothy, she said that she only accused Melanie of SA'ing her because she was jealous. And from what Ive heard and seen, Timothy has accused other artists of rape or SA as well. Obviously she's only doing it to ruin people's lives.
Next thing, when Timothy was trying to give a date that Melanie SA'ed her, she couldn't give an answer that made sense. The date she originally gave, people found a post from Melanie showing she was in a whole other state 6 hours away from Timothy. Then, Timothy said she had messed up and gave the wrong date saying she meant a date 4 days before the one she originally gave which people found out Melanie and Timothy werent with eachother then either.
And Ive seen posts saying Melanie said Timothy never said no and I totally agree that just because someone doesn't say no doesn't mean they said yes but I believe Melanie would've stopped if she noticed something was wrong, and Timothy would've spoke up if she wanted to stop. And in fact, Timothy could've been fine with what happened and just didnt say no so she could've used it to try and ruin Melanie's career later on, saying she never wanted it to happen. I don't know if Im explaining this in a way that makes sense but just try to imagine it.
And more on Melanie, her art is not CP. specifically the soap art that everyone is talking about. Yes, it's a child in a tub but she is covered. And it was never Melanie's intention for it to be CP. The whole point of Melanie's music is that we watch crybaby grow up, and each one of her songs are another year of crybaby's life. And in soap, crybaby was still young. So it was never Melanie's intention for the art to be CP, but for it to just show her character and the meaning of the song. "It's a child, with soap in her mouth and in a bathtub! It's obviously CP!" it's not. It's a child because that's the point of Melanie's music, she has soap in her mouth because that's the point of the song. She spoke too much and now shes washing her mouth out with soap. Why she's in a bathtub, who knows but it can't be that big of a deal considering she's covered in bubbles and nothing but her feet are showing. And quite frankly if you think that art is CP maybe your the problem.
Anyway bye, dont come for me, this is just based off what I've seen online
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Castiel
Talking like you know her personally
toot toot
It did happen. Mel her self said "she didn't say no" which is vague yes, but it means it happened and mel has accusations of rape from other women. And victims don't always remember the dates.
And also there is a lot of mis info out there about this case specifically from Melanie's fan, most of the info used to prove that tim was lying was either edited, fake or taken out of context.
What I'm saying is be careful
david.avi
> minor defending Felonie Fartinez
what else is new
Not a single link to any evidence. Nothing groundbreaking. Even if Melanie didn't have these allegations on her, her music is known for sexualizing children, children's hobbies, and concepts associated with children. You people are all about "believe all victims" until it's your favorite shitty musician.
I don’t know about this specific case, I am not claiming the person referenced in this post is innocent or guilty. I don’t know or care. What I wanted to respond to was your claim “Believe all victims.”
Now, I am not sure whether you adhere to that or whether you believe the author does and is contradicting it. But if you do (and correct me or ignore this if you don’t), then I think it’s a very bad mentality. If all it means is take the victim’s accusations seriously or offer support, that’s fine. But’s it’s more accurate to say take them seriously rather than use the word ‘believe’. But if you mean believe as in believe, that’s equivalent to adhering to guilty until proven innocent.
That mentality is horrible because it leads to false accusations based on little to no proof. The burden of proof lies with the accusers. That’s how serious argumentation and investigations go. Otherwise, everyone would be responsible for disproving claims thrown at them regardless of strength: and that’s absurd. So if the accusers cannot provide it, then they are innocent until proven guilty. Otherwise, you presuppose a conclusion that can turn the accused into a victim themselves later on.
It’s also bad for gathering evidence. When we say innocent until proven guilty, we are saying they aren’t proven to be guilty and are either suspect/neutral. That has bias, but less. But when you say guilty until proven innocent, suddenly you begin looking for evidence they ARE guilty, rather than looking for what actually happened, and that can lead to, again, false accusations.
Again, I haven’t even heard of this case before, I am not commenting on that, just on the one remark you made.
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"Believe all victims" is a biased statement, so I don't use it to refer to my own beliefs. While I think victims should always be heard out, with support and visibility uplifted, I'm the type to stay out of it until evidence is produced to either disprove or prove guilt. The case with a lot of these Melanie defenders, alongside defenders of different celebrities, musicians, etc who have allegations against them, is that they're the type to say "believe all victims" [in this case, multiple of Melanie's songs are about sexual abuse and being victimized] before immediately posting something disrespectful towards the person who made the accusations towards their favorite musician, producing fake evidence against them [this happens A LOT in Melanie's fandom, you would be shocked] or trying to "clear" the accused with absolutely no evidence at all. It was more of a snark towards how Melanie's more psycho fans have acted in order to defend her than a projection of my beliefs.
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