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TRIGGER WARNING: Misandry, politics, mental issues, gender issues.
y'all before I get a bunch of misandrists flooding my replies calling me a far-right transphobic misogynist or whatever - I'm left-leaning, I support trans rights and I don't hate all women. I'm only here to just rant about these dumbass misandrists acting like they're in the right and have some sort of moral highground.
I ALSO WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT I AM NOT DENYING THE EXISTENCE OF MISOGYNY - I COMPLETELY RECOGNISE ITS EXISTENCE, BUT THIS BLOG POST IS TO ONLY COVER MISANDRY - PLEASE KEEP THIS IN MIND WHILE READING AND/OR RESPONDING.
Now with that cleared up - what the actual fuck is wrong with some people nowadays? like I get feminism and all that - I also believe men and women deserve the same rights, but these people who like to call themselves 'girlboss' or whatever are just misandrists who think hating billions of people based off of one small group of people (or just one guy) within that community is morally correct.
like some of these people who call themselves 'girlboss' act like they're better than men like no you're not, you're just as human and valuable as we are. just because some guy did something to you doesn't give you the right to hate on billions of people, call all of us dangerous stereotypes and spread false accusations.
I get trauma exists but don't act like that makes you better than us. Instead of becoming a misandrist immediately after heartbreak, you should go to therapy or just visit some sort of psychologist instead of fueling your hate and making your mental state even worse in the process.
I already know if someone made an 'anti-feminism' group these girlboss ppl would be fuming, but they don't realise that's literaly what they're doing, just replace 'men' with 'misandrists' and replace 'women' with 'men' and you get the entire girlboss ideology. like bruh hate is not okay in general and that doesn't mean it's okay against men.
and before I hear people say stuff like "but men did the same to women in the 1900s!!!" - that's a stupid reason. this shit's like saying the entirety of europe is a shithole and then point to some random abandoned village as your "proof". you don't get to act like this because men used to do that too (emphasis on it being in the past tense). this generation has been almost completely scrubbed of that behaviour, so this point is irrelevant and outdated.
I'm just here to spread the word on how this shit is going too far, and that people should accept each other regardless of race or gender.
I'll repeat one last time that I do not hate all women, and that this blog post isn't to be used as a reason to harass people nor to be seen as a form of hate-speech. Thank you for reading.
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Ruby
you’ll be okay
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NachosFans
i follow a golden rule.
if they dont feed ya dont care.
if you see some insta reels of "girlboss" js scroll away. Insta gonna build your feed based on that. If you see them irl, treat them like a stranger but dont hate. Hate breeds hate.
The world wont have any changes if you hate them or not, so dont waste your time.
I'm not hating, I'm trying to discourage hate - that's the entire point of this post.
by whoops; ; Report
𝚜𝚠𝚚𝚗𝚜𝚎𝚝
What is misandry without misogyny? Because On one hand women every day are harmed in detrimental ways because of misogyny whether it be workplace discrimination, lack of opportunity, or even just the fat target on our backs every time we go outside alone. What does "misandry" do? It .. hurts feelings. boohoo i guess? it's not crazy for a woman to immediately assume the worst from a man when fundamentally one way or another ALL men are raised around misogynistic ideologies. if not in home than outside at school, and work, and around friends where even subconsciously they are treated differently than women. At the end of the day, is it really "misandry" or a woman expressing discomfort in the men she's encountered who display feelings of superiority.
I don't think it's ok to bully or shame someone for anything, however it's insane to sit there and cry about men being poked fun at every so often when most of the women in your life have likely been assaulted by a man because we keep letting them get coddled. No, feminism isn't misandry.
Also you seem to be getting pissed off at women pointing out the fact misogyny isn't real, but honestly they are pretty much right. You see women using this term, yes, but it's a term coined and most commonly used by men to make themselves the victim. Women are more often than not mocking men when using this term.
"No, feminism isn't misandry" - that's exactly what the problem is - many don't see it that way. People who call themselves (note how they're calling THEMSELVES) misandrists are ruining feminism's reputation - many see women who call themselves misandrists and because they call themselves "feminists" alongside that, many combine the two as if it's the same thing - which it's not.
The entire girlboss shit is fighting fire with fire but then complaining when you get a burn wound - it won't do anything against "the patriarchy", it's just being a prick, and that's why I made this post - to discourage people from supporting something that is actively hurting women more than men, and hitting them with the truth - the truth being that both men and women are humans, and that you shouldn't see yourself as better than someone else.
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Anahid
I agree. Hating man won't fix this serious problems women are facing. I feel like it's something the government does to shift the blame on half of the population instead of taking responsibility. BTW, I think you'd like Lady J on instagram. She's a real feminist.
EXACTLY! I don't get why people hate men instead of the patriarchy they keep mentioning - hating men won't just magically make all the problems disappear. Also, I have no idea who Lady J is lol.
by whoops; ; Report
We're on the same page! Plus, misandrists are negative advertisement for feminism, though they are not the same, people mistake feminism for misandry, which will slow the progress we are fighting for. The_Lady_J is an Instagram influencer who criticizes these extremists, both right and left. She's one of the influencers I look up to.
by Anahid; ; Report
ikr girlboss and misandry are just bad rep for feminism. also thanks for letting me know who The_Lady_J is - I've never heard of her.
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haunting girl
I don't want to paint you as the bad guy because i know you're just a teenager who spents time online, but if you're going to talk about serious topics then do your research first and don't foccus when it happens online. You need to realize how harmful it is using the word misandry. Yes, theres is extreme feminists who bully men for being men and that can be an issue, but misandry doesn't exist. If men are the oppressors, it's imposible. "Misandry" is just a made up word to make feminists look bad. If it's not misandry, then it is harrasment and bullying. And this is goofy, but why did you pick the word "girlboss"? Isn't that just an slag? None one uses that other than on the television and the internet, so you aren't looking this issue very well. And please, if you aren't a girl, please don't talk anything about misogyny, if you don't know how it is like to be us then don't mention about the things we went trought.
One more last thing...
No to be rude, but none one asked you to do this. You will still be fine if you didn't make this post anyways. I know that you teens want to talk about serious topics, but you guys are still very young, so you shouldn't really worry about these topics unless it really affects you, and you don't have to argue with every single comment because neither you were told to do so. You're not a superheroe, you're just you. So please, only worry what really affects you.
Why did you make this a seperate comment? Just make it as a reply because this'll just clutter the comment section.
"You need to realize how harmful it is using the word misandry" - people call themselves misandrists, but I'm not allowed to call those people misandrists? It's like if I said I'm homophobic, but you aren't allowed to call me homophobic because "that's a harmful word" (I'm not homophobic btw, just want to clear that up because from what I've seen you put no effort into actually carefully reading my replies and post).
"but misandry doesn't exist" - jeez this point has been used by like 20 people before you, and it's the most illiterate point I've ever seen - this shit is so overused I'm starting to think you're an alt account.
I'll just repaste my reply to another person saying this exact same point, because it's way too overused: "I never stated men are being opressed - how hard is that to understand? I'm just trying to discourage people from hating a whole gender, as it hurts yourself more than us." - Is that good enough for you?
""Misandry" is just a made up word to make feminists look bad." - no? There are a concerning amount of people who call THEMSELVES misandrists - this isn't some magical word we created to make feminists look bad, this is an actual term people call themselves.
"And this is goofy, but why did you pick the word "girlboss"? Isn't that just an slag?" - if you're talking about "stony waste matter separated from metals during the smelting or refining of ore", then no - but if you mean 'slag' as in "criticize (someone) in an abusive and insulting manner", then still no. Again, these people call THEMSELVES girlboss - we aren't labelling them with anything, they're labelling themselves.
"And please, if you aren't a girl, please don't talk anything about misogyny, if you don't know how it is like to be us then don't mention about the things we went trought" - yeah, breaking news - I literally explicitely stated in my disclaimer that I wasn't going to talk about misogyny directly, that's why it also isn't included in the trigger warning.
"No to be rude, but none one asked you to do this. You will still be fine if you didn't make this post anyways. I know that you teens want to talk about serious topics, but you guys are still very young, so you shouldn't really worry about these topics unless it really affects you, and you don't have to argue with every single comment because neither you were told to do so. You're not a superheroe, you're just you. So please, only worry what really affects you." - first of all, I'm *not* 12 - I don't know why you're saying this as if I just discovered the internet yesterday. Why should someone have to ask me to write this? In that case, nobody asked you to reply to me. And also, this bullshit does affect me, in fact shit has happened irl, so I don't think I need someone else's permission to write about it.
by whoops; ; Report
Geez, i wasn't being rude, just wanted to share my opinion. Have a great day i guess ┐(´ー｀)┌
by haunting girl; ; Report
Objectively you are being rude, better luck using that line next time ig ┐(´ー｀)┌
by MZIH; ; Report
The way you wrote this doesn't really seem like it's "just your opinion", you're using words like 'you' which makes it a reply to my post, and so it shouldn't be weird that I reply. Also, I never stated you were being rude, I only gave my rebuttals.
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Sabi
这只是泛泛而谈。这不会伤害任何人。这不会杀了你，因为有些女人讨厌男人。 they mean joke not full hate honest. Also they can't hurt any boy by speaking mean. Sorry my English not good
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It is still hurtful - sometimes even more against women themselves, as they get stuck in a hateful echo-chamber. I'm just trying to discourage people from supporting this. And also, it usually isn't "just a joke".
Tanslated to Chinese with Google Translate: 这种做法仍然很伤人——有时甚至对女性自身更有害，因为她们被困在充满仇恨的回音室里。我只是想劝阻人们不要支持这种做法。而且，这通常不是“一个玩笑”。
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haunting girl
I think you're taking us too seriously when we say "fuck men".
Also, why did you dad a trigger warning for politics in the first place...?
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by haunting girl; ; Report
I mean, the whole girlboss movement (not feminism, as that is something completely different) isn't just "fuck men" - people are actually harassing and trying to cancel innocent men.
Also, the main reason I'm even making this post is to point out the stupidity with trying to fight fire with fire - it hurts women more than us, which is why I want to discourage people from supporting it.
And to clarify about the 'politics' trigger warning, I was just trying to make it as sealed as possible so I don't have people crying in my comments section for no reason.
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Mako
I agree. feminism isn't about hating men, it's about liberating women. when people turn feminism into something like "women good, men bad!!" it doesn't actually do anything to help women. I would also like to mention that misandry goes hand in hand with bioessentialism 9 times out of 10 and that a lot misandrists tend to ignore the oppression that men in marginalized communities face because they're men. it's just overall not a good mindset to have.
fr it's always "but what about the patriarchy?!" but they forget to realise that hating 4 billion people over something they're born as doesn't do anything
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Rotkappchen
I thought you were joking about people arguing about it in the comments
... Damn I can't believe that people actually think like that, and it's spreading further too :/ I hear some girls at my school say language including 'all men blahaha' now AGHH LIKE GIRL?!?!?
Yeah, it's just unhealthy hatred, but when it gets criticised it suddenly becomes "but men do worse!" or wtv. I made everything very clear and re-read it multiple times to make some final tweaks, and yet people still ignore my points and shift the goalposts.
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nightwing
i've been too scared to speak up on this because my blog comments once got flooded with people saying "as someone who got punched in the face as a 14 yo..." and "get your wisdom teeth removed then u can talk" because my blog was about me getting my teeth removed for braces and being scared and having the title as "id rather get punched in the face", so since then i avoided speaking about almost anything but teeth and violence, so covering this topic is really refreshing and inspiring!!
I'm glad you feel better, and don't listen to people who are just bullshitting - they're not worth it, I'm only arguing with them cause it's funny seeing them scramble random bs points.
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antipatic
From my experience, women hate all subpar looking men. Even when they are mistreated by a handsome man they will project unto incels and say all men are like this. And when another handsome man comes around they will forget all about it.
Can confirm, I myself have spoken to people like this, it's both sad and frustrating.
by whoops; ; Report
that ladies and gents, is what we call a "femcel" only care about men with a good face.
by ミ★ 𝘕𝘢𝘺𝘢 ★彡; ; Report
Pot
this shouldn't be a controversial take, why are people arguing?
I guess saying "you're just as human and valuable as we are" is a very hot take ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
by whoops; ; Report
sorry you gotta deal with so much hate for just stating obvious facts
by Pot; ; Report
eh it's more funny than sad - they keep just trying to scramble random arguments and it always ends up as the weirdest shit ever
by whoops; ; Report
lmao
These comments make me sad.
Personally I think any sort of prejudice is bad. Even if it's against a straight white male with all of the priviledges in the world. Words hurt, even if you think it's "no big deal" or else a "papercut" to the person you're saying that to (:
Finally someone gets it.
by whoops; ; Report
"Misandry doesn't exist" is like saying you can't be racist to white people. Sure white people aren't being called slurs as we speak but they can still experience racism like everyone else just as much
I argue priviledged people still have it bad because of the whole "you have rights so how could you possibly have your feefees hurt? suck it up!" hammered into their mind would give anyone mass impostor syndrome lol
by lmao; ; Report
For real, having "more rights" doesn't mean you can't have feelings and don't deserve to show them.
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mully
this twitter ass blog is bunssss any misandry men deal with online is literally nothing but a splinter. a papercut basically and it doesnt affect them whatsoever so they can just scroll past it. womens “””misandry””” isnt targeted towards the loving father taking his kids out for a walk its targeted towards those incel bum men calling women foids and making sa threats both online and irl its nuts.. le sigh.. for other men any guy who is a respectable person will know that the misandry isnt targeting him specifically but the wider range of men who are doing these things so i think its okay for women to stand up against these sorts of things
even if misandry did end we wont even be equal cuz men will continue this loser behavior so why sit around and just take it? but yeah thats about all i have to say i love you women keep your chins up this is mully signing off! dattebayo fellas!
spongebob is a guy but he is pure of heart and i love you spongebob never let anyone dull your sparkle. men should watch the first 3 seasons of spongebob i genuinely think it can change them and give them a new view on life that isnt full of misogyny or any type of hatred
by mully; ; Report
I can't tell if you're serious or not because this feels like some school presentation speech.
First of all, it is in fact targetted to all men - have you ever tried interacting with one of them? Hell, their shit isn't just online, shit has happened personally so I can confirm this isn't just a bunch of edgy teenagers online. Also I never said men are opressed, this is the third time I have to say this because your comment is as illiterate as the other 3.
All I'm doing is calling out the stupidity of hating 4 billion people over something they're born as (which we can't choose to be men in the womb fyi). This bs hurts yourself more than us, and that's why I made this blog post - to call it out and discourage people from supporting it. This shouldn't be seen as a bad thing.
by whoops; ; Report
nothin wrong with a school presentation speech.. i never said that YOU said men are oppressed either, its the opposite.. if you think i did then i guess youre as illiterate as me then
️ anyways im not denying that theres asshole people irl who hate on the other gender when its uncalled for there 100% is but what im tryna say is theres a difference to men who are loud about their hatred vs women cuz mens voice comes from prejudice and womens comes from a retaliation of that prejudice i completely wish we could live in a perfect world where we can sing kumbaya but everytime i think yknow... men are finally growing up theyll call you a skank or a whore in a comment section over nothing most of the time and say they hope you get sa'd plus that whole bear vs man thing so yeah its a really sucky feeling and these types of threats are more powerful than women if they were to say the exact same thing because men have and always will have more power both physically and socially i think this can apply to white people and minorities im white as heeeeell but i dont take it seriously (this doesnt relate to ur original blog) when minorities say/joke they hate all white people cuz ik its not that deep and i understand where theyre coming from and that its not targetted towards ME me
"there is an arabic saying: kill all white people" every woman in their life will sadly go through something at some point from a guy anything from verbal to physical ive experienced both and its a bad feeling honestly i understand where youre coming from and you have the right intentions for wanting to end hatred but youre focusing on the wrong thing i think you should focus more on gymbro men who are cruel to minorities, other people, and animals and suck off tate keemstar and shapiro than women who say they hate all men if u feel me
by mully; ; Report
tl;dr men who say all women must die/other threat: coming from a place of hatred and have more power to their voice because its something they can literally act upon because they have a social advantage vs women who say all men must die: hatred against men who sa animals, women, children, other men and others like minorities and disabled folk. i think instead of focusing on gender war and saying you wish for women to stop their hatred vs men you should focus more on educating others especially when theyre young and most impressionable to teach to respect others and deplatforming influencers. thats all
by mully; ; Report
love all my girls i wish them the best
by mully; ; Report
This is a very long response, I cannot reply right now as I have to leave soon, so expect a reply sometime this night.
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Aisha
Imagine how tired we are XD
jay ⚢
Misandry doesn't exist. Violent crimes are constantly committed against women and basic rights being taken away and you're mad because a woman on twitter said men suck. men have never been oppressed, they have never been oppressed and they never will be. you're crying because women make jokes about men meanwhile women are crying because in this day and age an unborn fetus is somehow valued more than their lives, violent crimes against them hardly ever get punished or believed. be serious bro like grow up
Jeez, another opression olympics warrior. I'll say it again: I never stated men are being opressed - how hard is that to understand? I'm just trying to discourage people from hating a whole gender, as it hurts yourself more than us.
Also, this isn't just an online thing, shit has genuinely happened in real life (personally too, so don't try pulling the "that never happens!" card).
Girlboss and misandry (there are a good amount of people who call themselves misandrists) isn't "sticking it up to the patriarchy" or wtv, it's just being insufferable and hurting yourself while not achieving anything to actually stop it.
by whoops; ; Report
We said that because saying Misandry exist (which is a lie or a wrong opinion) indirectly implies that women are oppressing the men (which is not the case)
by Airuu; ; Report
I'm talking about the poeple who *call themselves* misandrists (as stated in my original blog post), I never said misandry is a real thing with real world laws and effects.
by whoops; ; Report
so you agree that men cannot be oppressed yet for some reason somehow believe misandry is real? literally makes zero sense. with all the things women have to go through, often by the hands of men, I think they're allowed to joke around about hating men. if youre not part of the group theyre talking about, you shouldn't be offended by it . . but if the shoe fits . . 🤷♀️ it really is just pathetic to see how absolutely fragile men are. like I said, women are having their rights taken away and yall are on fucking SPACEHEY crying because a woman on tik tok said men suck. like I said before, grow tf up bro
"youre just making it worse for yourselves" women are harassed on the street, sexually assaulted, murderered for saying no, having their rights taken away and you think somehow that a woman saying "fuck men" is going to possibly make it worse than it already is??? is there a brain in your skull? also sounds incredibly victim blamey but what else can you expect from men, right? lol
seriously, I cannot stress this enough, grow tf up. I think men can stand to get made fun of by women considering everything. you'll be fine.
by jay ⚢; ; Report
Gosh, what even is this reply - I have a feeling you didn't read a single part of my reply nor my blog post. I never said misandry is this thing with acutal real-world laws, I'm talking about and criticising those who *call THEMSELVES* misandrists - I can also call myself heterophobic (I'm not btw), so does that mean nobody can criticise me for it or they'll be called biphobic, out of touch and privilidged because bisexuals are being killed for their identity? Your point makes zero sense from a moral viewpoint.
"I think they're allowed to joke around about hating men" - have you ever talked to someone who calls themself part of girbloss and a misandrist? They aren't just "joking", they're actually trying to shut down innocent men and harassing them in the name of "sticking it up to the patriarchy" (these men did absolutely nothing to them btw).
"if youre not part of the group theyre talking about, you shouldn't be offended by it" - jeez, do you really want me to bring up definitions now? "dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against men (i.e. the male sex)." - Oxford - I have no clue what point you're trying to make here.
"women are having their rights taken away and yall are on fucking SPACEHEY crying because a woman on tik tok said men suck" - I never stated any of this, so I have no idea how you want me to respond to something I didn't say nor imply.
I'm not saying that people saying "fuck men" would make it worse for them, more of how hate is always a negative emotion and forcing that 24/7 (even when men are nowhere near you) is just a huge strain on mental health - that's just fact. Us doing something won't help it, actually speaking to a professional will.
Also, to be a little nit-picky, your reply reads less like an actual argument and more like a tantrum - insults don't prove your points. Calling you illiterate at least has some structure and defense behind it, saying "grow tf up" and "there's no brain in your skull" isn't constructive criticism in the slightest, just childish rudeness.
by whoops; ; Report
"reads like a tatrum" and its me making very valid points about why people call themselves misandrists . . .ok lol. and yea, im going to insult you when you're on !!SPACEHEY!! complaining about women man. if you don't think misandry is real then genuinely who cares if someone calls themself it. just like heterophobia, it does not exist, it does not harm anyone. its a joke. i seriously dont understand where you're trying to go with this because everytime you think you're making a point you just sound like an offended man throwing a fit. im done replying to this conversation, its stupid and women are allowed to make jokes about their oppressors. have a great day bro
by jay ⚢; ; Report
I'm gonna make this reply a bullet list of all your arguments because I guess even with formatting you can't read.
- "and its me making very valid points about why people call themselves misandrists" - yeah I'm sorry but I have no clue what any of this means - is English your second language?
- " im going to insult you when you're on !!SPACEHEY!! complaining about women man" - this is a terrible excuse. Just because it's on SpaceHey doesn't mean you can be an asshole and act like you have the moral highground.
- "if you don't think misandry is real then genuinely who cares if someone calls themself it" - I care because it's unhealthy and I want to discourage people from supporting a hate group that tries to fight fire with fire but then complains when they get a burn wound.
- "it does not exist, it does not harm anyone. its a joke" - it really isn't a joke, and still, this doesn't mean I can't criticise it.
- "i seriously dont understand where you're trying to go with this because everytime you think you're making a point you just sound like an offended man throwing a fit" - first of all, you started it, so don't cry when I respond. Second of all, I'm trying to discourage people from supporting this because it's genuinely harmful, even more so to other women than to men. I've said this so many times - how hard is it for you to understand?
- "im done replying to this conversation, its stupid and women are allowed to make jokes about their oppressors. have a great day bro" - have a great day, and realise that these people aren't "just joking about their "opressors"" and that supporting girlboss can be damaging to men, but in the end, it's way more damaging to the women they're "defending".
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Airuu
My lil bro is complaining about something that doesn’t even exist
🙏 Bro, the oppressed can’t oppress their oppressor, that’s basic, also, al the things that you talk about is statistic, women, in most of the cases where we’re abuse the abuser is a man, like, is a fact (?) Is normal to be afraid, is normal to complain about it and is normal to start to hate when is being centuries and when we started to achieve the equality the society said “hey, no no no, too woke, we need less lgbt+ rights, less women rights, less racial rights and more capitalism and oppression” is obviously that there is going to be people hating their oppressors, because the hate AND the decision of IGNORE a problem like this the only emotion it gets is hate, so, is not Misandry, is the reaction of systemic oppression, abuse and a reaction also against the majority of the rest of the gender who just choose to ignore the problem, so live with it (srry if I said something wrong, I don’t usually talk in English and here is late 
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Jeez, turning this into the opression olympics I see. I never said men were getting opressed, I was calling out the stupidity of hating 4 billion people over something they're born as - do you think we can choose to be born a man while in the womb (the answer is no if you're wondering)?
You're not the only one who left such an illiterate comment on here. I just said it's stupid to hate billions of people of which most don't even know you exist - that's the whole point - hate is wrong, wrong on both sides.
by whoops; ; Report
And I understand that, the problem is that you don’t understand US. Imagine being at the bank, for example, and you’re with some friend.
Well, then a rober enters and in the middle of the hold up the rober shots your friend and they die. Okay, now picture no one besides them friends an family not care about it, actually, almost the rest of the world just ignore the case or make jokes about it, how would you feel in that case? Probable rage, even hate, well, that our problem with MOST of the men, we know not al men are like that, obviously, we’re not dumb, but most of them yes.
Is easy to talk about a problem is you are not affected by it.
And again, sorry if my English is weird sometimes, I don’t usually speak or write in English
by Airuu; ; Report
Your analogy is confusing, but I think what you're trying to say is: "nobody cares when a woman gets killed, in fact, people would often even joke about it" - correct me if I'm wrong.
Anyway, people do care - it's just that so many people (both men and women) are murdered every day that you can't cover every single story on widespread media - that just isn't possible. It could also be that you're trying to talk about femicide, which the UN (United Nations) has covered many times and many regular people know about it, so I wouldn't say it's completely ignored.
I'm not saying men are opressed or that there's a 'malicide' or something, I'm calling out hateful ideologies as it actually hurts misandrists themselves more than us. I made this post to discourage people from supporting it, as it could be a huge strain on people's mental health.
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Tommy
literally all of your replies are telling victims their trauma isnt valid enough to be wary and they need to “seek help” Just delete this post dawg
misandry is NOT an issue and its incomparable to misogyny. misogyny causes murder, rape, sexual assault, and misandry causes men to feel a little insecure. Get so absolutely for real. It’s completely valid for women to feel uncomfortable and hate men! I swear women are the only victims not allowed to hate their oppressors.
Historically it has been men who commit violent acts against women whether it be domestic violence/abuse, sexual assault, rape, murder, you name it. Men have been discriminatory towards women for CENTURIES but now? now that women are doing something about it and hating their oppressor? NOW its not okay? Sure. whatever.
by Tommy; ; Report
istg you sound like an alt account cause no way you read all the way down there but didn't see my response to another person who said the exact same thing
here I'll paste it again cause I guess something's very hard to find when it doesn't fit your narrative:
"Did you read the full debate or did you only read that? I wasn't denying the SA, and I mentioned multiple times that I condemn those actions, but it doesn't mean you can hate 4 billion people (most of which don't even know you exist), that's the delusional part (and see 'delusional' as its Oxford definition, as that is how I used it: "characterized by or holding false beliefs or judgements about external reality that are held despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, typically as a symptom of a mental condition.")
What is so hard to understand about "you shouldn't hate people because they're born as a specific gender"? - Do you think we chose to be men while we were in the womb? You're acting like being a male is a choice and we should kneel to you for other people's actions.
Did I commit SA? Did my classmate Ryan from 5 years ago commit SA? Did your neighbour John commit SA? It's not like all men are these hypersexual murderers, and it shouldn't be weird to call out a hate group who believes in a damaging hateful ideology.
Hating all men hurts yourself more than us, and that's why I'm heavily discouraging this mindset - hating all men will just make you live in fear, even in places where they can't reach you - and that doesn't require us apologising, as it wouldn't do anything - if you hate all men, seek help, that's your best option, even if it sounds harsh."
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no i read that comment and i still disagree. Also, not an alt account, but whatever! Like i said, i guess women are the only victims who arent allowed to hate their oppressors.
Based on your replies i assume youre a dude, in thay case i don’t know why you get a say in how comfortable a woman should be around men. Weirdo
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also im very curious on how you feel about black people who are uncomfortable around white people or black people who refuse to interact with white people due to trauma and experiences of racism, answer carefully!!!
by Tommy; ; Report
This isn't a reply, this is a tantrum - absolutely zero constructive criticism and making assumptions that aren't even close to true. Let's break it down.
- "i guess women are the only victims who arent allowed to hate their oppressors" - No way you're telling me hating 4 billion people, most of which don't even know you exist, is a morally correct thing to do with a straight face. Are all 4 billion of us attacking you, stabbing you, threatning you? Are you recieving 4 billion death threats every day? Hating your opressors should be hating the government that supports it, not hating some random guy named Johnathan 50 miles away from you who works in the local Starbucks.
"Based on your replies i assume youre a dude, in thay case i don’t know why you get a say in how comfortable a woman should be around men. Weirdo" - First of all, very funny of you to call me a weirdo for talking about a subject involving women, but then proceeding to ask me my opinion on black people, weirdo. Also, it doesn't make me a weirdo if I'm calling out a hateful ideology, and I never told any woman how to act - I'm just calling out the stupidity behind hating 4 billion people because of their gender.
However, to answer your question about "how you feel about black people who are uncomfortable around white people or black people who refuse to interact with white people due to trauma and experiences of racism" - The difference here is these people are just refusing to talk to white men, not starting movements called "Kill All White People" and being a nuisance to all white people. - Girlboss is the exact opposite - the KAM movement, harassing men because they were born that way and just being annoying.
Now, I'm gonna say this, because I know you're gonna try to use this as an argument - I do not think men are opressed, and I recognise misogyny's existence - I even stated it in my disclaimer. However, it shouldn't be weird to call out a hate group, and that's what I'm doing, and nothing should be seen as wrong about that - it should be common sense to tolerate each other. At last, I support equal rights and I hope you can be open-minded for once to realise that.
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Long as comment yet im being served a nothing burger. What im getting from that is its fine for black people to be uncomfortable with all white people but not when it comes to any other victim and their oppressors i.e women and men
Also no im not just asking you of your opinion on black people, idiot, im asking about a certain phenomenon regarding them. Pretty big difference there.
misandry isnt an issue and it never will be Nobody pities you at all #growupbruh
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and sure women say kill all men, or “be annoying” as you said, but what about all the men who rape, kill, abuse, and harass women? It’s not every man yet its a large percentage of! I think its understandable for women to not like men whatsoever!
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Did you even read my comment? Ironic how the person who boldly states my reply was a nothing-burger is getting mad at me for responding with rebuttals instead of kneeling. Also, saying my reply was a nothing-burger sounds more like just "I can't make a comeback so I'm just gonna deny everything you said".
"What im getting from that is its fine for black people to be uncomfortable with all white people but not when it comes to any other victim and their oppressors i.e women and men" - That's not what I said, is English your second language? I said that I'm fine with the black side because they aren't acting like assholes and usually are getting help and treatment to fix it, girlboss on the other hand just tries to fight fire with fire, and then complain when they get burnt. Read my replies carefully instead of just skimming through it and assuming the gaps.
Also, quick sidenote, pretty funny how you call me an idiot while you can't understand basic unwritten debate rules.
"Misandry isnt an issue and it never will be. Nobody pities you at all #growupbruh" - Are you illiterate?! No, really - I said like 50 times by now that I never called misandry something that has real-world political effects. I'm calling out hate groups and people who *call THEMSELVES* misandrists.
"and sure women say kill all men, or “be annoying” as you said, but what about all the men who rape, kill, abuse, and harass women?" - This part confirms you're illiterate, or are at least ignoring the points I made. I'm not gonna bother repeating myself an 80th time, just go read our previous replies. And if you really can't find it, let me know and I'll paste it for you a 81st time because I already covered this point in this debate.
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Don’t care i didnt comment to try and change my mind, i just think youre wrong and i #hateyou Maybe we should kam
by Tommy; ; Report
Lmfao someone's mad they lost. Maybe you shouldn't have left a comment if you're so scared of getting a reply.
by whoops; ; Report
I’m not mad nor scared i just think you’re stupid and i wont ever agree with you LMAO idgaf what a murder drones fan has to say. I only think youre wrong
by Tommy; ; Report
Then why are you still replying? You say that you "don't give a fuck about what a md fan has to say" yet you're still here as if I'm in your head.
by whoops; ; Report
Because if i stopped you’d think you won because i “shut up” or whatever logic you wanna use. Also, no, you’re not stuck in my head—you’re stuck in my notifications, big difference bud
by Tommy; ; Report
"Because if i stopped you’d think you won because i “shut up” or whatever logic you wanna use" - be honest, that's the type of shit you'd do, literally just read your previous replies...
"Also, no, you’re not stuck in my head—you’re stuck in my notifications, big difference bud" - if you hate the notifications so much, then stop replying - you obviously don't know how to have an actual debate because you just only threw insults and didn't make any constructive criticism, so there's no point in still being here.
by whoops; ; Report
I didnt comment looking for a civil debate; i commented to tell you why i think youre wrong and why i dont like you or your shitty self-pitying opinion
Also, no, i wouldnt do that because im not you #suckmynuts #fondlemycheeks
by Tommy; ; Report
You're still going? I really don't care about you or your dumbass opinion, you came here first.
I'm not gonna reply to your shitty takes anymore with your fuckass hashtags #goshoveastickupyourass
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Ong mfs have one bad experience with a small group of people and think everybody else is like that, it's dumb. I see a sad group of people here who try to justify hate by mentioning patriarchy but mind you the average man on the street likely doesn't even have a position of power, you being a shithead won't fix patriarchy and makes actual feminists look worse since now they're grouped in with you. Misandrists are just a different flavour of dumb incels on 4chan or any other prejudiced asshole, both of them think their hatred against an entire population is morally justified.
ikr, but for some reason calling it out is seen as weird and "denying misogyny and SA" or wtv.
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God forbid people judge others based on character and not preconceived judgements
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