I'll never understood why people care so much about someone aborting their own child. a fetus feels pain at around 7-8 maybe 9 weeks if I'm correct? everyone is "her body her choice" until its about a baby and then suddenly its YOUR choice what she decides to do with that. I say that if you've never had to go through the fear of being pregnant at a young age or possibly at poverty then you have Little to no say in the matter.
Something that doesn't feel pain is still human, some fully developed human beings have the inability to feel pain, but that doesn't make them less human. The reason I am opposed to abortion is because the fetus is scientifically proven to be alive, and it has separate DNA from the mother, so it is not her body, and i am opposed to the killing of any human life. The solutions to poverty and unwanted pregnancy is welfare, charity, stricter punishment for rapists, adoption and natural family planning, not killing the child.
we all know that last bit isn't going to happen, especially stricter punishment for rapists. thats just not how the government works. Of course we all wish they had all those things...but its just not going to work. I don't believe Killing a human is right but...My mother (someone who got an abortion before the baby felt pain) said that at the time she was not ready to have babies (doing drugs, poor, living poorly) she wasn't going to let that child live a terrible life with her like that. so she aborted it for the child's own good. personally if I was going through something like that and simply had NO way of taking care of the child...the only way through is abortion. Pro-lifers always have this argument...but what are you going to do when the child is born? its not your responsibility anymore. Then the mother who is poor or going through a rough time, homeless, etc. will have to put that child through the worst just because some random person she doesn't even know called her a murderer for aborting her own baby.
also I think there is very much an acceptation for abortion. such as rape, incest, underage, and poverty/not being able to raise the child. babies are expensive, someone who is extremely poor and quite literally can barely feed and home themselves won't be able to spend loads of money on a child. especially not being able to put the child in school and such. Or someone who is in an abusive situation and is unable to get out of it, who doesn't want their child to go through that should be able to abort the child.
in the case of poverty, killing a child is not morally justified if it prevents that child from having a bad life, just like it's not acceptable to just kill people because in your opinion their life sucks. and cases such as rape and incest are a tiny fraction of reasons why people have abortions, and killing one of the victims of these crimes is still not the solution.
there's absolutely no way you just said that....so your saying that a woman who gets raped by her uncle should still have the baby regardless of rape and incest? your disgusting...
if it poses no threat to her life then yeah. i still don't see how murder is the solution to rape. maybe if we took measures to prevent people from being raped in the first place this would not be a problem. and still, you're focusing on a tiny fraction of actual reason people get abortions, so i don't see why you don't think we can just ban abortion is the cases you mentioned instead of allowing all the others to happen. and you haven't given me any reason to believe a fetus is not alive, because if it is i will always oppose it being killed.
Having a child with your uncle? seriously? you think thats okay? I said that abortion should have acceptations. Your beliefs are disgusting. please get help. but besides that your obviously not going to understand what's wrong about forcing a girl who was raped by her uncle to have that baby. regardless of how SHE feels. no reason in beating the dead horse here.
i never said it was ok? i think it's an awful situation to be in but that still doesn't justify murder. you haven't given me any arguments and have just tried to make me feel bad by calling me disgusting. please tell me why murder is ok in this situation.
Incest. Incest can cause the baby to have extreme damage to parts of the body and malfunction. rape. extremely traumatic experience for a little girl, especially from a family member. trauma, You'll be extremely scared after an event like that, I'm sure you won't be able to handle an entire child. UNCONSENTIAL she NEVER agreed to get pregnant so therefore it's not her fault and she is not obligated to have that child. and last but not least...it's just immorally wrong
adding to the last bit her being un-consensual makes it okay for abortion. as she did not consent too getting pregnant and neither did she have knowledge
the only other alternative to giving birth to the child is killing it. a child with abnormalities is still a child and killing them because they'll suffer is never justified. and if the mother doesn't want to keep it she can put it up for adoption.
Dude...there's a whole post about it on here. even they said incest and rape is an acceptation for abortion. I'm sure you've seen it. Its the scientific argument against abortion. If it's un-consensual then she has a choice whether to keep it or not. saying she should have the baby even without her consent when she didn't consent to partaking in the intercourse let alone plant his seed inside her. I'm not gonna go down this rabbit hole with you as I said I have my beliefs I don't like yours. you have your beliefs and you don't agree with mine. no sense in beating a dead horse.
I don't understand where your coming from because what you think is just something I'll never see in a good light no matter how you put it, sorry. Hope you have a nice day!
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cheesecool
Fr tho like why r some people getting sad over a undeveloped fetus it's not even rly a person yet.
If it is alive and the result of two people with xx chromosomes and xy chromosomes copulating then it is a person
by chuddie; ; Report
I'll never understood why people care so much about someone aborting their own child. a fetus feels pain at around 7-8 maybe 9 weeks if I'm correct? everyone is "her body her choice" until its about a baby and then suddenly its YOUR choice what she decides to do with that. I say that if you've never had to go through the fear of being pregnant at a young age or possibly at poverty then you have Little to no say in the matter.
by γβ ππ’πΊπ’ β 彑; ; Report
Something that doesn't feel pain is still human, some fully developed human beings have the inability to feel pain, but that doesn't make them less human. The reason I am opposed to abortion is because the fetus is scientifically proven to be alive, and it has separate DNA from the mother, so it is not her body, and i am opposed to the killing of any human life. The solutions to poverty and unwanted pregnancy is welfare, charity, stricter punishment for rapists, adoption and natural family planning, not killing the child.
by chuddie; ; Report
we all know that last bit isn't going to happen, especially stricter punishment for rapists. thats just not how the government works. Of course we all wish they had all those things...but its just not going to work. I don't believe Killing a human is right but...My mother (someone who got an abortion before the baby felt pain) said that at the time she was not ready to have babies (doing drugs, poor, living poorly) she wasn't going to let that child live a terrible life with her like that. so she aborted it for the child's own good. personally if I was going through something like that and simply had NO way of taking care of the child...the only way through is abortion. Pro-lifers always have this argument...but what are you going to do when the child is born? its not your responsibility anymore. Then the mother who is poor or going through a rough time, homeless, etc. will have to put that child through the worst just because some random person she doesn't even know called her a murderer for aborting her own baby.
by γβ ππ’πΊπ’ β 彑; ; Report
also I think there is very much an acceptation for abortion. such as rape, incest, underage, and poverty/not being able to raise the child. babies are expensive, someone who is extremely poor and quite literally can barely feed and home themselves won't be able to spend loads of money on a child. especially not being able to put the child in school and such. Or someone who is in an abusive situation and is unable to get out of it, who doesn't want their child to go through that should be able to abort the child.
by γβ ππ’πΊπ’ β 彑; ; Report
in the case of poverty, killing a child is not morally justified if it prevents that child from having a bad life, just like it's not acceptable to just kill people because in your opinion their life sucks. and cases such as rape and incest are a tiny fraction of reasons why people have abortions, and killing one of the victims of these crimes is still not the solution.
by chuddie; ; Report
there's absolutely no way you just said that....so your saying that a woman who gets raped by her uncle should still have the baby regardless of rape and incest? your disgusting...
by γβ ππ’πΊπ’ β 彑; ; Report
if it poses no threat to her life then yeah. i still don't see how murder is the solution to rape. maybe if we took measures to prevent people from being raped in the first place this would not be a problem. and still, you're focusing on a tiny fraction of actual reason people get abortions, so i don't see why you don't think we can just ban abortion is the cases you mentioned instead of allowing all the others to happen. and you haven't given me any reason to believe a fetus is not alive, because if it is i will always oppose it being killed.
by chuddie; ; Report
Having a child with your uncle? seriously? you think thats okay? I said that abortion should have acceptations. Your beliefs are disgusting. please get help. but besides that your obviously not going to understand what's wrong about forcing a girl who was raped by her uncle to have that baby. regardless of how SHE feels. no reason in beating the dead horse here.
by γβ ππ’πΊπ’ β 彑; ; Report
i never said it was ok? i think it's an awful situation to be in but that still doesn't justify murder. you haven't given me any arguments and have just tried to make me feel bad by calling me disgusting. please tell me why murder is ok in this situation.
by chuddie; ; Report
Incest. Incest can cause the baby to have extreme damage to parts of the body and malfunction. rape. extremely traumatic experience for a little girl, especially from a family member. trauma, You'll be extremely scared after an event like that, I'm sure you won't be able to handle an entire child. UNCONSENTIAL she NEVER agreed to get pregnant so therefore it's not her fault and she is not obligated to have that child. and last but not least...it's just immorally wrong
by γβ ππ’πΊπ’ β 彑; ; Report
adding to the last bit her being un-consensual makes it okay for abortion. as she did not consent too getting pregnant and neither did she have knowledge
by γβ ππ’πΊπ’ β 彑; ; Report
the only other alternative to giving birth to the child is killing it. a child with abnormalities is still a child and killing them because they'll suffer is never justified. and if the mother doesn't want to keep it she can put it up for adoption.
by chuddie; ; Report
Dude...there's a whole post about it on here. even they said incest and rape is an acceptation for abortion. I'm sure you've seen it. Its the scientific argument against abortion. If it's un-consensual then she has a choice whether to keep it or not. saying she should have the baby even without her consent when she didn't consent to partaking in the intercourse let alone plant his seed inside her. I'm not gonna go down this rabbit hole with you as I said I have my beliefs I don't like yours. you have your beliefs and you don't agree with mine. no sense in beating a dead horse.
by γβ ππ’πΊπ’ β 彑; ; Report
you haven't really listened to what i've said. and i don't see it as beating a dead horse to try and understand where people are coming from.
by chuddie; ; Report
I don't understand where your coming from because what you think is just something I'll never see in a good light no matter how you put it, sorry. Hope you have a nice day!
by γβ ππ’πΊπ’ β 彑; ; Report