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saw someone else give out some of their controversial opinions on here so i thought i'd share some of mine. obviously lots of it is gonna be political. feel free to share your thoughts, tell your views, call me names, etc.
1. opinion on 2024 election (republicans vs democrats)
if it wasn't obvious, i am referring to the us presidential election, and just my general thoughts on trump and kamala, republicans and democrats, etc. i don't like trump or kamala, i feel they both don't care about the average american, as with the vast majority of politicians. they both constantly say shit to give them credibility and lie. i feel this is the same for most politicians, republican or democrat. the democrats are just extremely incompetent, they had to pull out their candidate who had dementia and put in kamala harris without a primary, and then the republicans are more of the stereotypical politicians, constantly making false promises for votes, saying stuff they don't mean, not caring about the common folk, etc. i would consider myself conservative on most things, but i feel trump is playing his supporters, especially how he said he was anti-war, but then he strikes iran. i feel hes a bitch for israel in many ways.
2. lgbtqiabcdef...+
i'm not going to spend to much time on this one but i still want to throw my opinion out there. i don't care if you're gay, lesbian, trans, do whatever with your life. but there's all these complex labels and pronouns these people associate with, and i don't understand why you can't just be. another thing is that if you're trans, fine, but don't expect other people to think that you're the gender you identify with. for example, if i see a very obvious guy, broad shoulders, receding hairline with facial hair, in a dress telling me he's a girl, i'm not going to take him seriously and i'll consider him a guy. i feel that you can never fully transition to the other gender, so why not just be a feminine guy, or a masculine girl? again, it's not out of hatred, but if i see a goat in a chicken costume, i'm not going to think it's a chicken, i'm going to think it's a goat.
3. immigration
i think immigration towards america should be controlled, but i think deportations in america have gotten out of hand, and that illegal immigrants who are genuinely working hard, have family, etc. i think they should be given a path to citizenship, and i think only the illegals who commit crime should be deported. america has been this land of opportunity for all kinds of people, with various different cultures, and i feel that's the whole point of america. europe on the other hand, i don't know what the fuck is going on over there. just to say, i don't live in europe, but i have european ancestry and therefore feel culturally connected with europe. europe just seems to be letting in anyone, and here immigration should be even tighter because they have their own cultures and customs. it seems most of the immigrants in europe do not care about the culture, or the people. i wish europe was doing more against this but for now it kinda just seems like just another political issue rather than something that threatens the way of life on the continent. it just seems like many europeans don't care about their countries anymore and it hurts to watch their countries slowly become devoid of life and their own uniqueness. i'm not saying all europeans are like this, but the muslim who landed in ireland yesterday and doesn't care about the culture or people of ireland is sure as hell not more irish than an american who actually is ethnically irish and has connections with ireland and partakes in the cultural activities of ireland. i'm tired of some europeans thinking their countries are perfect when they have plenty of problems of their own. america isn't great right now either, especially with trump in office, but europe isn't alot better.
there's some of my opinions i would like to share on certain things. feel free to let me know what you think. insults are welcomed if you detest me for my viewpoints that much.
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Jackdaw
i'm gonna disregard your first two points (cause tbh your first point is kinda valid and i dont have the energy to debate the complexities of gender identity online with strangers AGAIN.) so. as someone who is actually 'european' (which btw, is kinda a dumb thing to say because europe is very large and has many countries with varying cultures in it), i must confess i have little respect for americans who bang on about having european heritage. if you did live in europe, perhaps you would have a better understanding of immigration and cultural issues - for example, you mention ireland - a country that, although there has been a varied response to the recent uptick in immigration, has generally been very welcoming to those of other cultures. this same attitude can be seen in countries such as germany, which has one of the highest rates of immigrants entering the country. while i understand where you're coming from, the idea that immigrants must assimilate into the culture of the country they're entering, or that culture can be 'diluted' sounds a liiiitle bit like racism.
i will admit that since you're a european, you're probably more qualified to talk about this i suppose, but i still see whats going on over there and it almost doesn't seem like europe anymore. it's not racist to want to preserve your cultures and customs in your native land. imagine for example if you went to japan, you would expect to be around the japanese culture, japanese language, etc. you wouldn't expect people to speak punjabi, french, etc. same case here, western europe went from a nice place with a rich history and great culture to a multicultural dystopia in the name of diversity. european women are scarred to walk at night and (especially in the case of sweden) rape and crime has skyrocketed. i also understand why you have distain for americans who brag about their european heritage, and you can say they're not european, but either way they actually have ancestral and cultural ties to europe, unlike most immigrants in europe today. if you're saying that those americans aren't european you sort of have to disqualify the immigrants who don't assimilate at all.
by the_steve; ; Report
i really don't think that european culture is being diminished or destroyed because there are people who live in the country who don't observe that culture. in the case of japan (which is not necessarily comparable as its a very culturally homogeneous country due to stricter immigration controls) i wouldn't be shocked if i heard languages other than japanese - because its not really a big deal. i often hear americans advertise the country with pride as a 'melting pot' - something that can be observed in european countries today. diversity very rarely has negative side effects - for sure, you can talk about the economic implications of increased migration, but to talk about it destroying culture really links to the worse kind of patriotism. and your point about western women being scared to walk at night? again, kindaaa a racist talking point. in the uk, for example, over half the perpetrators of sexual assault are white - so, not what i assume you imagine to be immigrants. if you want to have a discussion about the effect of immigration on the economy, i am more than happy, but this talking point usually just leads to xenophobia or racism in my experience.
by Jackdaw; ; Report
my point is that europe shouldn't be a melting pot. they have years of history and already have a culture. and again, wanting to preserve the traditions of your culture isn't racist. also, lots of these immigrants come from third world countries that are under-developed and more crime ridden, so it's not really a race thing, more of a culture thing.
by the_steve; ; Report
crime isn't culturally ingrained in people - these third world countries may have higher rates of crime, but this is because they're less developed, it doesn't mean that immigrants from these countries are more likely to be perpetrators of crime unless they're forced to live in poverty in the country they have immigrated to, because the government refuses to look after them. i showed you the statistics regarding sexual assault, for example - they simply don't support your point. And as for your point about it being a bad thing for Europe to be a melting pot - inter-continental immigration has been a thing for many years, and the establishment of the EU encouraged this even more so - culture has been shared around Europe for a long as its existed, basically. the arrival of immigrants who don't even outnumber the original population isn't going to destroy the 'original' culture (which was heavily shaped by previous generations of immigrants anyway), and will instead promote diversity, which is never a bad thing.
by Jackdaw; ; Report
Edamame
on your third take: border are fake, read a book. cheers!
just kidding. not really. ill address the part about protecting culture. culture is something to unify people and something you can CHOOSE to take part in. forcing someone to take part in something is taking their freedom away. culture is not bound to a land, it is bound to people and people have no right over land unless they are personally using it. if someone attacks something that has personal meaning to you (and i mean something ACTUALLY personal for example destroying your dress that has cultural significance), then they deserve an appropriate social consequence, but that goes for everyone in every scenario, we're all people after all because it doesnt matter if some asocial close-minded people told someone they cant be on one or the other side of a line on a map. if i critique a culture for being a tool to make people discriminate against each other im not offending anyone as a person and if someone does take it personally then its their problem. if it brings you discomfort, just say so and they can keep it away from you. if you care about the meaning of the culture so much then just inform people about it who are interested. my main point is there are a lot of asocial people who need help so unless you are able and willing to give them help then dont engage with them because starting a conflict doesnt make you any better than them and it doesnt solve anything.
i type too much tee hee anyways have a blessed day my fellow human being
culture isn't necessarily constricted by land in a legal sense, but all cultures are tied to an ethnic and geographical background, and so having many people of different cultures within your land will most likely cause confliction. When something disrespectful is done against a culture, it is worse if the the culture being disrespected is the native culture of a country. For example, if a muslim destroys a traditionally English dress in england, it is worse than if he did it in Saudi Arabia. Same as if a Christian destroys a Muslim dress in England compared to Saudi arabia. This is because a culture can be tied back to a certain landmass, and so when a culture is disrespected in its land, it is worse because you are not just disrespecting the culture, but the culture's right to be predominant in its country as well. And it's the same with practicing a culture in a country not of that culture. By doing so you are not respecting the countries deep cultural ancestry, by assuming it is merely land, and that it is not tied to any culture or ethnicity.
And I dont think it is a case of ignoring people's cultural preferences, because when you look at Europe, it's not like people are peacefully practicing their cultures and affecting nobody. Their culture is constantly being pushed down people's throats in the name of diversity, to the point that you cant just ignore it.
by chuddie; ; Report
Conflict is caused by incompetency to cooperate. The whole cultures mixing causing conflict thing is a people taking things personal problem and a discrimination problem. But seperating people wont solve anything, maybe only temporarily. We are capable of cooperating, some people just dont understand themselves or others well enough. And youre right, a culture can be tied to an ethnicity, but only historically. Im saying that it isnt limited to any ethnicity. And land can only be tied to an ethnicity historically. Land belongs to everyone. Many would argue against that by saying that the people of the land have better experience with it and thats true and they have the authority over the topic of the land theyve used. But it doesnt mean that someone with a shared interest can use the land too. But using land freely means using it in the interest of your interest, so treading on crops and refusing to take the farmers advice who planted them is abusive and isnt acceptable under that idea. Im basically saying that anything can be co-opted and that we as humans are capable of living in harmony. Sure some things like racism, patriarchy, the state, etc stand in our way but its what we need to overcome to progress as a society.
I kinda went off topic anyways i wish you a joyful day or night as always.
by Edamame; ; Report
Edamame
on your second take: gender identity is pretty confusing, but thats just how gender is. its a social construct that doesnt really mean anything, other than how people percieve it and how they act based upon those perceptions. therefore, it has no limits. so if someone has some weird neo pronoun shit going on or whatever, you could try to understand it, ask them to simplify it for you or just dont acknowledge their gender AT ALL because its completely valid to say that it has no meaning to you and use they/them or it. but do NOT throw them into the fucking gender binary, because the concept of gender cant be simplified into 2 categories (which are mainly only upheld to oppress the other) that people are just categorized in without their consent. also if someone says their gender is this, then who the fuck are you to object. you cant know them better than they know themselves. the thing that we connect to gender have no relevance, what matters is that persons perception of themselves. gender is dumb. make an effort to accept it or just reject it, but dont simplify it.
my whole point is that i don't recognize any sort of gender identity. there's men and there's women and that's how i see it. identify however you want but don't expect me to go along with it
by the_steve; ; Report
youre contradicting yourself. if you dont recognize any sort of gender identity then you dont recognize men and women, because those are gender identities. so if you "dont want to go along with it" if its too complex, thats completely valid, but dont discriminate against people who dont conform to the gender binary just because its "normal" in most peoples heads.
by Edamame; ; Report
Men and women are genders that are based on biology (xx and xy chromosome), while the other gender identities aren't really based on anything aside from personal feelings.
by chuddie; ; Report
Thats true and a very good point, but the fact is that even if its based on that doesnt mean thats what defines it and gender doesnt have a definition, its a social construct.
by Edamame; ; Report
Gender identity has to be based on something more than just feelings. Gender when in relation to society, is still greatly influenced by biological sex. While fake genders aren't, they are products of societal influence alone.
by chuddie; ; Report
youre talking as if feelings arent based on something. most feelings of gender identity are mainly based on the gender that was assigned to people based on their sex. gender doesnt come from within you, theres only an understanding of it in societies which is adopted by individuals. an interpretation of the construct of gender and an individuals feelings are what a gender identity is made up of.
by Edamame; ; Report
when it comes to identity surrounding something objective, i dont think feelings really matter
by chuddie; ; Report
seems a whole ass debate started lol
by the_steve; ; Report
OBJECTive as in the physical properties of ones body, which is defined by sex, not gender.
by Edamame; ; Report
yeah ROFL and spanning over almost two weeks (ToT)
by Edamame; ; Report